John Scudder

John SCUDDER (1590 – 1625) was Alex’s 9th Great Grandfather; one of 1,024 in this generation of the Miller line..

Scudder – Coat of Arms

Simon J Skudder commented on About

Hi Mark, very interesting site, though I would comment that the Scudder Arms, granted to Scudder , probably Henry, of North Cray in 1574, are incorrect, the cinquefoils are in chief not on the fess where the roundels should be, I have previously advised the pedlars of armorial history who disseminated this incorrect information but they are not interested. I would opine that the College of Arms are the most likely to be correct in this. See http://skudders.weebly.com/heraldry–armorial-inscriptions.html.

John Scudder was born in 1590 at Horton Kirby, Kent, England.  His parents were Henry SCUDDER and Elizabeth HALE.  His immigrant brother Thomas of Salem also had a daughter named Elizabeth who is sometimes confused with her cousin, John’s daughter Elizabeth.  John married Elizabeth STOUGHTON in 1613 in Maldon, Essex, England.  John died in 1625 in Strood, Kent, England and did not immigrate.

Elizabeth Stoughton was born in 1600 Coggeshall, Essex, England.  Her parents were Rev. Thomas STOUGHTON and Katherine MONTPESSON.  After John died, on 30 Apr 1627 she married Robert Chamberlain.   After Robert died, in 1639, as a two time widow, and following her Stoughton brothers and her Scudder kin, she migrated to America about 1640.  She came to New England with her children, Elizabeth Scudder and Samuel and Joanna Chamberlain, following her brothers Thomas and Israel Stoughton and her son John Scudder, all of whom were here by 1635. Some say Elizabeth’s mother-in-law Christian Chamberlain also accompanied the party.  Elizabeth was certainly in New England by 6 Oct 1644, when, as “Mestres Chamberlin,” she joined the Rev. John LATHROP’s church at Barnstable. with her children.

Elizabeth apparently moved to the Bay colony shortly thereafter, for on 14 May 1645, the Massachusetts Bay General Court, calling her “ Mrs Chamberlin, widowe, sister to Mr Israell Stoughton,” directed, ‘[u]pon weighty reasons moveing,” that she be allowed either a cow or £5.40

Elizabeth died intestate, in Ipswich, Massachusetts, before the inventory of her estate was filed on 30 1st month [March] 1647; the court ordered that the estate, which totaled only £32 4s. 5d., be divided: two parts to the son and one part to the daughter.

Two years later, “Richard Betts, who married Joana Chamberlin. [was] allowed : 1 [March]: 1649, as administrator of’ the estate of Samuell Chamberlin, brother to said Joana, who was heir to the estate. ”  Richard and Joanna (Chamberlain) Betts moved to Long Island, where his will, dated 16 March 1711, indicates his continuing associations with the Scudders.  It is unusual that Elizabeth Chamberlain’s Scudder children did not share in her estate. However, in cases when the estate was small and included no land, the courts sometimes exercised considerable leeway.Elizabeth died in 1647.

Robert Chamberlain was born in 1590.  “Mr. Robert Chamberlayne Pastor of the Parrishe of Stroud,” whose first Wife, Joanna, was buried there on 20 Feb 1626/27 Robert Chamberlaine’s son Thomas, schoolmaster, “by Gods providence deprived of his life at Rochester Bridge,” was buried at Strood on 9 October 1630.  Mr. Robert Chamberlaine died at Strood and was buried there on 1 June 1639.

Children of John and Elizabeth:

Name Born Married Departed
1. Elizabeth Scudder 1614
Strood, Kent, England
1616
Strood, Kent, England
2. Thomas Scudder 1617
Strood, Kent, England
1617
Strood, Kent, England
3. John Scudder 1618
Strood, Kent, England
Hannah [__?__]
1645 in Boston, Suffolk, Mass
15 Apr 1690 Barnstable, Barnstable, Mass
4. Thomas Scudder 1620
Strood, Kent, England
5. Elizabeth SCUDDER 31 Jul 1625 – Strood, Kent, England Samuel LATHROP
28 Nov 1644 in Barnstable, Mass.
1 Sep 1682
Norwich, CT

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Children of Elizabeth and Robert Chamberlain

Name Born Married Departed
6. Samuel Chamberlain 1628
Strood, Kent, England
1649
Mass.
7. Joanna Chamerlain 1630
Strood, England
Richard Betts 1711
Newtown, Long Island, NY
8. Sarah Chamberlain 1632
Strood, England
1635
England

The name Scudder is of both Dutch and English Origin. Scudder means one who fought with a bow and arrow, an archer; or one who constantly shook or trembled from disease

TAG 72:285-300: A New England Immigrant Kinship Network, Jane Fletcher Fiske, F. A. S. G.

“JOHN SCUDDER (HenryA ) was born probably at Horton Kirby, Kent, say 1590, and died, probably at Strood, Kent, in 1625 or 1626. He married at Maldon, Essex, in 1613, ELIZABETH STOUGHTON daughter of the Rev. Thomas Stoughton. As Mrs. Elizabeth Scudder, widow, she married secondly, at Strood, Kent, “the last daye of Aprill 1627, Mr. Robert Chamberlayne Pastor of the Parrishe of Stroud,” whose first Wife, Joanna, was buried there on 20 February 1626/7 Robert Chamberlaine’s son Thomas, schoolmaster, “by Gods providence deprived of his life at Rochester Bridge,” was buried at Strood on 9 October 1630. The record of the marriage states that Elizabeth was the daughter of “the Rev’end Divine that was, Mr Thomas Stoughton.” Thomas Stoughton received his M.A. from Queen’s College, Cambridge, in 1580, and was vicar of Coggeshall, Essex, from 1600 to 1606. He was father also of Thomas1 and Israell1 Stoughton, who came to New England in 1630 and 1633 Robert and Elizabeth (Stoughton) (Scudder) Chamberlain had three children, Samuel, Joanna, and Sarah, baptized at Strood.

Mr. Robert Chamberlaine died at Strood and was buried there on 1 June 1639. (There is a twenty-year gap in the Strood register following his burial.) His widow came to New England with her children, Elizabeth Scudder and Samuel and Joanna Chamberlain, following her brothers Thomas and Israel Stoughton and her son John Scudder, all of whom were here by 1635. She was certainly in New England by 6 October 1644, when, as “Mestres Chamberlin,” she joined the Rev. John Lothrop’s church at Barnstable.  She apparently moved to the Bay colony shortly thereafter, for on 14 May 1645, the Massachusetts Bay General Court, calling her “ Mrs Chamberlin, widowe, sister to Mr Israell Stoughton,” directed, ‘[u]pon weighty reasons moveing,” that she be allowed either a cow or £5.40

The late Lewis D. Cook, FASG, investigated “Mrs. Chamberlin” and her children in Essex County, Massachusetts, without having access to the English records that provide the Scudder and Stoughton connections. Elizabeth (Stoughton) (Scudder) Chamberlain died intestate, apparently in Ipswich, Massachusetts, before the inventory of her estate was filed on 30 1st month [March] 1647; the court ordered that the estate, which totaled only £32 4s. 5d., be divided: two parts to the son and one part to the daughter.   Two years later, “Richard Betts, who married Joana Chamberlin. [was] allowed : 1 [March]: 1649, as administrator of’ the estate of Samuell Chamberlin, brother to said Joana, who was heir to the estate. ”  Richard and Joanna (Chamberlain) Betts moved to Long Island, where his will, dated 16 March 1711, indicates his continuing associations with the Scudders.  It is unusual that Elizabeth Chamberlain’s Scudder children did not share in her estate. However, in cases when the estate was small and included no land, the courts sometimes exercised considerable leeway.

The first child in this Scudder family whose baptismal record was found in the Strood registers was Thomas in 1616/7, but an older child, Elizabeth, was buried there in 1616. While it is tempting to surmise that Bridget, wife of Thomas Verry and Edward Giles, might belong in this family, that placement is impossible unless John was older than calculated and had an earlier wife–Bridget must have been already at least seven or eight years old at the time of his marriage to Elizabeth Stoughton.”

Children

3. John Scudder

John’s wife Hannah [__?__] was born in 1625 in England.  Hannah died 15 Apr 1690 in Mass.

Scudder Lane Ramp Barnstable, Mass

View from the end of Scudder Lane, Barnstable, Mass

7. Joanna Chamberlain

Joanna’s husband Richard Betts was born in 1613 in Hemel, Hemstead, England.  Richard died in 1713 in Newtown, Long Island, New York.

1649 –  “Richard Betts, who married Joana Chamberlin. [was] allowed : 1 [March]: 1649, as administrator of’ the estate of Samuell Chamberlin, brother to said Joana, who was heir to the estate. ”  Richard and Joanna (Chamberlain) Betts moved to Long Island, where his will, dated 16 March 1711, indicates his continuing associations with the Scudders.  It is unusual that Elizabeth Chamberlain’s Scudder children did not share in her estate. However, in cases when the estate was small and included no land, the courts sometimes exercised considerable leeway.

Sources

http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=174860

http://ntgen.tripod.com/bw/stoughton_index.html

http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/services/articles_gbr22.asp

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  6. carol girardin ( birth name Carol Ann Scudder) says:

    Pretty clear description of lineage. I am looking for line in family great grandfather++++ Leander Scudder from Conn. He went to Palermo, N.Y. and I have it from there, but can not get to his roots. He had no Long Island connection, so that knocks out Eliz. If not John or Thomas, I wonder if he came over later???

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