The goal of this project is to trace each branch of the family tree back to the ancestor that immigrated to America. I go back another generation to capture multiple immigrant siblings on their parent’s page. There are also special jaunts back in time to Marcus Antonius, Charlemagne, Edward I and a few other knights and kings of note.
It’s fun to find a missing relative and fill in pieces of a puzzle. Ancestors from the early 1800’s are some of the hardest ones to find. My grandparent’s information about their grandparents was pretty complete, so that takes us to births 1817- 1849. Once you get to the mid 1700’s, there are lots of online records available. Ten kids per family will create a lot of potential researchers 200 years later.
The puzzle is part of the fun, but it’s most rewarding to get a glimpse of how we lived in the past. I’m particularly interested in the lives of those that left their country for a new life and pioneers who established new towns or farms in wilderness.
I like the stories rather than the scholarship and feel that fact by fact footnotes break up the narrative. I try to hyper-link to the source and include a list of links at the bottom in “Sources” I link to our ancestor’s findagrave memorial through their date-of-death. Many thanks to the researchers who have gone out into the field, found these headstones and footstones, taken pictures and shared what they found with their (very) extended family.
My primary goal is sharing interesting stories about our forebearers. I don’t footnote each biographical fact, though I try to include links to the original sources. I usually try to attribute, indent and italicize extended quotations, but I must admit I’m more consistent at this now than I was at the beginning. If you find a section that’s leaning to much towards plagairism, let me know and I will fix it.
There’s a lot of religious drama in these lives. One famous and shocking story is of Mary Towne ESTEY (wife ofIssac ESTEY) who was burned at the stake at the Salem witch trials and portrayed in stage and screen. See my series Puritans v. Quakers and Witch Trials. There are other important stories too, like Elder William BREWSTER who as the only university graduate, served as the Mayflower colonists first religious leader, Rev. Stephen BACHILER (c. 1561 – 1656) who was an early proponent of the separation of church and state in America, Rene REZEAU, a Huguenot who fled France in 1685, and Deacon Benjamin COLEMAN who fought against his slave-owning minister on the slavery issue and was suspended from his church in 1780 over slavery. For a more complete list of our more illustrious ancestors see my page Wikipedia Famous To qualify for this hall of fame, the ancestor or their child has to have a wikipedia page of their own.
It’s interesting to think about past, present and future. I can find family members, marriages, removals, lawsuits and wills. I wonder if anyone will be looking into our lives 100 (or even 200, 300 or 400) years in the future. I guess that all depends on Alex (lol). How permanent a record this will this WordPress site be? Will it last at least as long as my grandmother’s mimeographed sheets?
Each web page is titled by the dad and covers a family. It includes vital statistics of the couple, links to the grandparents and a table of the children’s birth, marriage(s) and departures with dates and locations. This record includes aunts and uncles, but not cousins. The names of direct ancestors are BOLD. This project is halfway between a strict pedigree and an entire history of a particular family name. Most of these immigrants were working people: butchers, bakers, wheelwrights and mostly yeoman farmers. While we have a few gentry in our lines, the Family coats of arms on these pages are used to identify the original immigrants. Most of these families did not really have a coat of arms in their time. The pictures and the stories are the fun parts to find.
For navigation, use “search”, click on BOLD Fathers, Sons or Sons-in-law to get to the next family. Use the categories on the right to search by generation or by special topic.
Check out the “Fun Stuff” Category. Silly fun pages include: College Graduates, 17th Century Premarital Sex, Famous Cousins, Twins and Unusual Names. Historical fun pages include: Crimes and Misdemeanors, Untimely Deaths, Public Office, and Great Migration.
I’ve started to document historical events where several of our ancestors came together in the “History” Category. Examples include: First Comers, Esopus Wars, Siege of Brookfield – Aug 1675 , The Great Swamp Fight, and Minutemen – April 19, 1775
The gravestone page headers are of the first Miners in America. Thomas and Grace MINER died three months apart in 1690 and are buried together in Stonington Connecticut’s Wequetequock Cemetery. Their grave covered by a “wolfstone”, consisting of a large granite slab which it is said Thomas selected for the purpose from his own field. On one side of the stone an inscription reads: “Here lyeth the body of Lieutenant Thomas Minor, aged 83 years. Departed 1690”. His wife, Grace is buried beside Thomas, the opposite side of the stone being inscribed for her .
Miner Descent 
Mark,
Wow, I’m amazed! How long have you been working on this project? You have a fantastic ancestry recorded here. I like your layout, too. Did you come up with this, or did you see it somewhere else? It really shows off the information in a logical yet easy to read manner. Great work!
Doug
This is the first time, in any of the genealogies, that I have seen Maria Adriaens, (whom married Jan Juriaensen Becker), parents names. Could you please let me know where you found this information?
Thanks, Marilyn
The OneWorldTree on Ancestry.com shows this relationship.
http://trees.ancestry.com/owt/person.aspx?pid=154877187
OneWorldTree is an automatic compilation. However, in this case there was only one source being compiled.
dear mark, my name is deborah jean cliff (mackay is my married name), my pedigree brings me to Amos Estey who married Mary (Molly). I am so new to ancestry that I can’t even tell you which generation that is. You have done a marvelous job being a researcher that I wonder if you would be a teacher as well. I can’t see how my family tree ties in to all the other family trees. My uncle gene cliff always asserted we were somehow connected to the salem witch trials, but even after reading your paper, I don’t see how.
Hi Deborah,
Indeed, Amos Estey’s 2nd great grandmother Mary Towne Estey was hung as a witch in 1692 Salem.
You can navigate up and down the tree on my site by clicking the parent and children hyperlinks in BOLD.
https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/18/amos-estey/ (1759 – 1833) (who married his cousin Molly Estey)
https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/18/richard-estey/ (1728- 1817)
https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/18/richard-estey-i/ (1706 – 1791)
https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/18/isaac-estey/ (1656 – 1714)
https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/18/isaac-estey-i/ ( (1627 – 1712) Mary Towne Estey’s husband
Mary’s sisters, Rebecca Nurse and Sarah Cloyce, were also accused of witchcraft; Rebecca was executed, but Sarah was not. Rebecca is a principal character in Arthur Miller’s play The Crucible.
Mary was tried and condemned to death on September 9 1692. She was hanged on September 22, along with Martha Corey, Ann Pudeator, Alice Parker, Mary Parker, Wilmot Redd, Margaret Scott, and Samuel Wardwell.
On the gallows she prayed for an end to the witch hunt. See Mary’s petition to the judges on her page, it’s quite moving.
Hi Mark, I am also from the Merckel/ Merkel family lineage. I live in San Diego/Lemon Grove. The family is thru my German Mother’s Side.
Email: mereditham@sbcglobal.net
Alvin J. Meredith
Josef Andreaes Merkel is your 18th great grandfather.
You
→ Joanne Ellen Premus
your mother → Katherine Morrison Premus (Stott)
her mother → Luannia Phyllis Stott (Meador)
her mother → Kate Elizabeth McCaustland Harper
her mother → Luannia Harriet Winn
her mother → William Bray Winn
her father → Lana or Lena Winn (Phoenix)
his mother → James Frances Phenix/Phoenix
her father → Mathew Phenix
his father → Catharina Phenix
his mother → Annaatjen Bosch
her mother → Johann Friederich Merkel
her father → Heinrich Felix Merckel
his father → Georg Merckel
his father → George Martin Merckel
his father → Wolf Merckel
his father → Heinz Merckel
his father → Merten Merckel
his father → Christian Hans Merckel
his father → Josef Andreaes Merkel
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Josef Andreaes Merkel
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1400
Schwarzenberg, Zwickau, Sachsen, Germany
Death: after 1447
Schwarzenberg, Zwickau, Sachsen, Germany
Immediate Family:
Husband of Barbara Martha Merckel
Father of Christian Hans Merckel
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Charlemagne
Posted on July 29, 2010 by markeminer
Charlemagne (742 – 814) was King of the Franks and Emperor of the Romans He was Alex’s 43rd Great Grandfather, one of 243 in this generation of the Miner line.
Charlemagne is your 34th great grandfather.
You
→ Alvin Dean Meredith, Sr.
your father → Charlotta Meredith
his mother → Mabel Floretta Miller
her mother → Matilda Louisa Woodruff
her mother → Samuel Woodruff
her father → Israel Woodruff
his father → Isaac Woodruff, Sr
his father → Josiah James Woodruff
his father → Ens. Samuel Woodruff
his father → Matthew Woodruff
his father → Matthew Woodruff, I
his father → Sir David Woodroffe of Poyle
his father → Dionyse Brouysia Cathorpe
his mother → Edmund Calthorpe
her father → Richard Calthorpe
his father → Sir John Calthorpe, Kt.
his father → Lady Elizabeth Lucy
his mother → Sir Reynold de Grey, II, 3rd Baron Grey de Ruthin
her father → Sir Reginald de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Ruthyn
his father → Elizabeth Hastings, Baroness Grey of Ruthin
his mother → Isabel de Valence
her mother → William de Valence, 1st Earl of Pembroke
her father → Isabella of Angoulême
his mother → Alice de Courtenay, comtesse d’Angoulême
her mother → Pierre, de France, Seigneur de Courtenay
her father → Louis VI the Fat, king of France
his father → Philip I, king of France
his father → Henry I, king of France
his father → Constance of Arles, queen consort of the Franks
his mother → Adélaïde la Blanche d’Anjou, Reine consort d’Aquitaine
her mother → Fulk II, Count of Anjou
her father → Fulk, count of Anjou
his father → Ingelger, count of Anjou
his father → Petronelle d’Auxerre de Gâtinais, Comtesse de Anjou
his mother → Hugo, Archchancellor of the Empire
her father → Charlemagne
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Carolus ‘Magnus’, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum MP
Latin: Karolus ‘Magnus’, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum, French: Carolus, Magnus, Portuguese: Carlos Magno, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum, Estonian: Karl Suur, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum, Finnish: Kaarle Suuri, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum
Gender: Male
Birth: April 02, 742
Unknown, Likely in present Belgium (Herstal) or Germany
Death: January 28, 814 (71)
Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany
Place of Burial: Royal Church of St. Mary (present Aachen Cathedral or Kaiserdom), Aachen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
Immediate Family:
Son of Pépin III, King of the Franks and Bertha
I am really curious about the photo at the head of your blog. We have several mutual ancestors particularly GATES, BENJAMIN, WOODWARD. Wondering if that could a picture of one of my ancestor’s markers?
Hi Carolyn,
The page headers are front and back shots of the gravestone of the first Miners in America which is especially relevant to me since I’m a Miner too. Thomas and Grace Miner died three months apart in 1690 and are buried together in Stonington Connecticut’s Wequetequock Cemetery. Their grave covered by a “wolfstone”, consisting of a large granite slab which it is said Thomas selected for the purpose from his own field. On one side of the stone an inscription reads: “Here lyeth the body of Lieutenant Thomas Minor, aged 83 years. Departed 1690″. His wife, Grace is buried beside Thomas, the opposite side of the stone being inscribed for her
I found pictures of Stephen Gates II and Stephen Gates IV grave markers. Here is the url of IV: https://minerdescent.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/stephen-gates/
You found pictures of Stephen Gates II and Stephen Gates IV grave markers? Do you mean the gravestones seen in the picture of the Pachogue River near Preston? Do you think those gravestones could still be there?
LOVE YOUR website. You have really done a lot of work. My GATES one-line is:
Stephen I – Anne Veare, 9th great grandparents
Stephen II – Sarah Woodward, 8th great grandparents
Stephen III – Jemima Benjamin, 7th great grandparents
Thankful GATES – Daniel Woodward, 6th great grandparents, (and so on)
Thank you for your web site! I’m currently tracing back the Foster family history! The take On John Foster is quite confusing, I was wondering if you can shed any more light on John Foster of Salem b. 1618? Some records have him coming to America on The Hopewell in 1635 but the passenger lists reads Jo. Forten age 14 which doesn’t line up with any other info! I would love to solve this mystery . I have direct lineage to John and would like to find out if he is a true Foster related to the Fosters of Norththumberland as we know Reginald Foster is.
Robert,
I agree that the Hopewell or True Love passages for John Foster are not well documented. All we know for sure about his origins are affidavits late in John’s life. The thing I like most about genealogy are the stories. I’ve updated his page to better reflect the uncertainty.
https://minerdescent.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/john-foster-sr/
Thanks for your post, Mark
Hi Mark! I was wondering where you got some of the photos (specifically the Miller family photos) featured on your site, and if you’d be willing to share some? George Miller and Mary Estey Miller are my 3rd great grandparents, and we have the original of the photo you have of George! I had no idea other copies were made of it. I also have another photo (it’s a photo of a photo, I think my cousin has the original) of Mary Estey Miller.
I’d love to chat with you. I’ve traced Thomas Minor & Grace Palmer back in my tree on my mother’s side, but George & Mary are on my father’s side. Looks like my parents’ families mixed a long time ago…!
Thanks!
-Diane
This is an amazing website! I have a family bible that has been passed down through generations. The earliest family record reads “Samuel Parker married Sarah Homan or Holman of Dedham, married 1658 or before.” I am a 10th generation direct- decedent of Sarah Holman & Samuel Parker. I was searching for additional information that would confirm a 1635 passenger manifest that I came across for the “Hoeman” family, and happened upon your website. I’ve only just skimmed over a few of your pages, but can’t wait to read more. Looks like you have more information than I ever hoped to find. If you have any interest going forward from that Sarah Holman/Samuel Parker line, please let me know. – Rhonda
Phenomenal website!! I have multiple descents from Francis Cooke and my 3rd great grandmother is a descendent of Philip de Lannoy/Delano. I am on a similar quest but pale in comparison to the work you’ve done. Looks like you may have taken trips overseas? Anyway, great work! If you run out of puzzles to solve, you can have a few of mine! LOL
Best Regards,
A Very Distant Cousin
Jan
THE best genealogy website I have EVER seen! Everything about it I like. I am a Smallwood family member and do lots of 1600s research so I understand the problems of researching so many generations. I appreciate the source notes. I love the photos. Hope your family appreciates this excellent labor of love.
Hello Cousin! I see Alex and I are related via Simon Hoyt (I am a descendant of Walter and his offspring). You have done some wonderful work. Thanks so much for sharing this. I’m very happy to have discovered your amazing blog!
Dear Friends,
Not much I can add to all the well-deserved praise of this website. It’s a thing of great beauty.
I have made my pilgrimage to Wequetequock Cem. and recognize the “wolf stones” of your banner photo. I believe I descend from fellow Stonington (and Hartford) founder Thom. Stanton. A fifth grt-grdmthr was Prudence Stanton (b. 1734; m. Elder Robt. Fargo, Montville, Conn.) and a dau. of a Thom. S. of Groton. Many have attached her, for convenience, I suppose, to the wrong Thomas Stanton. Alas, I cannot prove my descent. beyond Prudence and her father.
I am also a descendant of Simon Hoyt of Charlestown and Fairfield Co., Conn.
I also have roots in New Netherlands — from Pieter Casparsze, called van Naerden, in Nieuw Amsterdam by 1647. I descend from his son Caspar Pietersze. Another son, Jan Pietersze, moved to Schenectady and then to the Woestyna, upriver, at Rotterdam Jct. He purchased the house (built c. 1680) that is now owned by Schen. Hist. Soc. (SCHIST), on the Mohawk., in 1708. This family adopted various forms of “Mabie” when forced to take surnames.
Thanks for the great pleasure and information.
Jon v. Briesen
Forked River NJ
I too am a decendant of John Wing I and his son Stephen. All of the information that I have complies with yours, plus you have so much more. Wonderful web site!
Another – I think – descendant of Simon Hoyt here.
I agree that details regarding ancestors around the early 1800s are difficult to find. Determining with any certainty the lineage of my great-grandfather, George P. Hoit – who later changed the spelling back to Hoyt – has been difficult. I believe his father was Jonathan Hoit, and if I am correct, Simon is my 8th great-grandfather.
I have question regarding the information about Simon and Deborah Stowe. It is said here that he did not marry Deborah, but rather one Jane Stoodly. But then a list of children is attributed to Simon and Deborah, as well as a mention of Susannah, whom Simon married after Deborah died. What am I missing?
herbanlifestyle, I have located members of your family through a chance encounter sometime around 2000. These folks are also the descendants of Walter Hoyt. I have a copy of a traditional, hand-written tree that was passed down to Mary Tower of British Columbia, mailed to me by Mary. It was a marvelous find . . .
Hi Jeff,
From what I have found, Simon had 3 wives. According to Ancestry.com, he married Deborah Stowers on Dec 2, 1612 and she died in 1635, and they parented Walter and John Hoyt III.
When I moved to the DC area a few years ago, I visited the Daughters of the American Revolution headquarters, and found that they offer genealogical research, often at no cost. They may be able to help you fill in some of the missing pieces.
And that is very cool that you met some fellow descendants of Walter Hoyt. I would love to obtain a copy of the hand-written tree, if you wouldn’t mind sharing it.
Mary Hoyt Kearns
My apologies, Mary.
I don’t check my email very often, and obviously I missed the notice that you had posted this.
I will certainly pursue the service the Daughter’s provide. Currently, I am waiting for a DNA kit that will determine if we are, in fact, related to Simon.
Meantime, I will put a reminder in my phone to bring the tree with me to work. There is a place nearby that we use to make copies of large sheets. I’ll get several of them made and send one to you. I’ll need your address, but there’s still the problem of me not checking my email very often, but here’s a suggestion – if you have a Facebook account, search for “The Search for the Hoyt Brothers”. You can ask to join the group, or click on my page and send me a message with your address. Either of those will likely get my attention much quicker, although I will endeavor to check my email more often now that I know you may be trying to reach me.
The search continues!
Thank you for making all this information available to other researchers. I stumbled across it searching for source material for surname info of Sarah ______ wife of Lt Andrew Newcomb. Your site states “Sarah Young was born about 1642 in Kittery, Maine. Sarah died about 1674 in Kittery, Maine.” Then goes on to quote the Newcomb Genealogy which does not give a surname. Can you tell me where the information on Sarah Young came from? Is it verified or speculative?
Thanks,
Nanette
Hi Nanette,
The only thing that I’ve seen with an attributed source is that Andrew Newcomb married someone named Sarah in 1661. (Gen. Column of the ” Boston Transcript”. 1906-1941.( The greatest single source of material for gen. Data for the N.E. area and for the period 1600-1800. Completely indexed in the Index.): 22 May 1916, 5567; 8 Jul 1918, 1892).
The name Sarah Young is reprinted on lots of ancestry.com genealogies, but you’re right, it’s not documented,
Here’s more speculation: Sarah’s parents were John Young (b. 1625 in Wallasey, Cheshire, England; d. 16 Dec 1672. or 16 May 1680 in Boston, Mass.) and Sarah [__?__] or Sarah Skinner (Sarah Skinner b. 1625; d. 1680 in Charlestown, Mass) o
Her grandparents may have been Rowland Young (1603 – 1685) and Barbara Ockol or
Rowland Young (1603 – 1648) and Joanna Knight (1625 – 1698) or Rowland Young (1603 – 1685) and Joane Clerk (1603 – 1648)
Thanks for such a quick reply. I too had noted all the Ancestry.com postings. Unfortunately, many Ancestry.com users copy postings without looking for source material assuming that if it is posted, it is true. Many, many times it is not.
Then, the fact that so many copy and post the info begins to give credibility to the info in and of itself – just by virtue of it being stated so many times. It is a vicious cycle. I fear that we are losing as much as we are gaining with the advance of technology to assist us.
I would urge all who post genealogy information to include their sources or state that material has not been proven. A word about where the info was found, or the rational behind it’s connection might lead others to find the proof or refute it in the future.
Nanette
Bravo, Nanette. I’ve been the victim of what you describe, and try not to pass along the effects.
I want to thank you for sharing your incredible work. It has been so very helpful! My husband also descends from several of the same people – Richard Currier, Thomas Bernard, Anthony Colby, John Hoyt, William Barnes and William Sargent.
Well done!
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Checked the Cheney line on your site. Picked up a few missing born and died dates etc. For my husbands (Cheeney) chart. Thanks for a great site! Very impressive.
Hello:
I am writing the biography of a cartoonist named George Herriman, who created “Krazy Kat.” In April 1925 Herriman gave a cartoon to “Sonny Miner.” Most, but not all, of the people with whom Herriman associated were in cartooning, journalism, film, or sports. In 1935, he possibly associated with these people from Brawley: Kent White, Elmer Weik, Wiley Bird, Jim Ryan, Blackie Bell, W.H. Modum, Joe Hood and J.L. McDonald. Do you have any idea if this Sonny Miner could be from your family, or do any of those names from 1935 ring any bells? Thank you! My email is below.
–Michael Tisserand michaeltisserand@yahoo.com
My dad was born in 1929, so a different Sonny Miner must have received the Krazy Kat Kartoon
Mark is this your site?
How far are we intertwined?
Thomas Miner Minor (1608 – 1690) is your 10th great grandfather
Clement Miner (1639 – 1700) Son of Thomas
William Miner (1670 – 1725) Son of Clement
Samuel Miner (1708 – 1745) Son of William
William Miner (1741 – ) Son of Samuel
William Miner (1768 – ) Son of William
William Miner (1792 – 1869) Son of William
John Durbin Miner (1824 – 1868) Son of William
William White Miner (1854 – 1926) Son of John Durbin
Charles Henry Miner (1882 – 1959) Son of William White
Vern H Miner (1913 – 1985) Son of Charles Henry
Ronald Vern Miner Sr (1939 – ) Son of Vern H
John Patrick Miner You are the son of Ronald Vern
Can I talk to you about Alexander Johnston of Crawford County, PA?
Hi Marke
I am researching the Call Family and have started deciphering e. Zanne’s comments about Philip Call. Any chance you could we could talk if I give you my e-mail address or phone number.
I am in the New England area.
Fred
Hi Fred, email works best for me as the Call family tree is tough for me to unravel on the fly. My email is markeminer@gmail.com
I am really confused on your ancestry of George Allen the Elder.
You have listed 7 children born to George Allen and Katherine Starkes Allen. Yet in your detail listed down lower you make the following two statements:
First statement – You mention 5 children not 7:
“Although it is not known for sure, George Allen may have been born in either Somersetshire, or Dorsetshire, England, or have at least resided in one of these places prior to emigrating. Lending some support for this belief is the fact that the Rev. Hull, and many of the other families that emigrated with George, appear to have been from one of these shires. George Allen is known to have married twice while still residing in England. His second wife, Katherine, accompanied George to America, and is believed to have been the mother of his five youngest children. According to the roster of passengers making up the Hull party, Katherine was listed as being thirty years old in 1635, thereby indicating that she had probably been born in about 1605 in England.”
Second statement – You are identifying why your Katherine was not Katherine Starkes :
“Although one commonly sees postings and family write-ups that indicate that our George Allen is the George Allen who married as his second wife, Katherine Starkes, on 5 Nov 1624 in All Hallows Church, Honey Lane, London, there is no documentation that would support that this is the same George Allen. On the contrary, there is evidence that suggests that this George Allen was the son of Richard Allen of the Tower of London, and that he was still residing in London, England as late as 1640, when he was mentioned in his brother, Henry’s, will. This George Allen is also believed to be the same George Allen who died at St. Michael Queenhithe, London on 26 Mar 1664.”
Please clarify these two statements and include any documentation on your findings.
Thanks
Beverly
Hi Bev,
I reviewed the source material and conclude that not too much is certain about George Allen’s wives except that he had two of them and the second’s first name was Katherine. I’ve put brackets and question marks around their names to indicate the uncertainty.
Thanks for the heads up, Mark
What is your reference for the first wife of Lt. William Clarke being a Strong?
I am most impressed with your website.
Hi Marlene,
Little is known for sure about Sarah, not even her surname, or exact date and place of birth. Since her husband, William Clarke, is first noted in the town of Dorchester in 1635, and apparently arrived there from England unmarried, virtually every unmarried Sarah in Dorchester at that time, has been suggested. I have seen Strong, Holton, Bolton, Lambert, Lumbert, Smith and too many more to mention. What I haven’t seen is any positive proof for any of these. At present, all that has been proven of Sarah, is that she and William were admitted as Church members in Dorchester in 1636, resigned from that church to be admitted to the new church in Northampton, in 1666, that all of her children were born in Dorchester, and that she was a good and loving wife to William. There are several theories about William’s first wife Sarah:
Mark Tyree believes Sarah Strong And Eleanor Strong (both born 1613 of Richard John STRONG) are the same person and that she arrived in America with her mother Eleanor and her stepfather William Cogan sometime before 1636.
Robin Mitchell says Elder John Stronge is the son of John (Richard) Stronge and Eleanor Deane. John (Richard) Stronge died before the birth of his youngest child in 1613. This is well documented in his will.
After John (Richard) Stronge’s death, his wife, Eleanor Deane, daughter of a tanner, married William Cogan (a tanner by trade) before the birth of John (Richard) Stronge’s offspring by Eleanor in 1613. Following a west country tradition, the daughter is christened “Eleanor,” after her mother. Though she is a “Stronge” by blood, William Cogan refers to her as “my daughter,” and raises her as such with the name Eleanor Cogan.
Young (Elder) John Stronge learns the tanning trade from William Cogan and Eleanor Deane’s father, Walter Deane. Sarah Stronge, the future wife of Lt. William Clarke, was born in 1613 to Thomas Stronge, the brother of Elder John Stronge’s father. This makes Sarah Stronge the cousin of Elder John Stronge.
An Ancestry.com user named hourglasssrs adds ”It appears from reviewing all the data that Sarah was born Strong; then her mother remarried a man named Holton (or Houlton) – thus she ended up being known by both names.” (I’ve updated William Clarke’s page with the story of the Holtons in Northampton)
Some say Some genealogists say that he married Sarah Strong earlier and he married Sarah Lumbert in 1636. (I think the Lumberts married different Clarkes, see William’s page for details)
Mark, I’m wondering where you obtained the coat of arms on the Mathijs Jansen Van KEULEN page. I’ve only ever seen a version that had a rampant red lion on the right of the crown and cask.
Hi Paul,
This is the image used by coat of arm memorabilia dealers. I don’t know where they got it.
I found the version with the red lion you are talking about at http://www.angelfire.com/id/vancuren/home.html
I think the image with the red lion is from the book VAN KEULEN / VAN KEUREN / VAN KUREN / VAN CUREN A FAMILY HISTORY by D G Van Curen
If you find out how Mathijs, signed the Dutch West India Charter 3 June 1621 as a Principal Partner, Lord-Director at the tender age of 20, let me know. Even if his family was very wealthy, it doesn’t seem probable to become a Lord-Director at such a young age. Maybe the DWC wasn’t such a big thing at the beginning.
Hi! So interesting to find family members here. I’m the daughter of Helen Miner (Bramwell Miner and Katie Ruth Heisler) and Junius Grant Van Curen (son of Grant Van Curen and Rosa Longenecker) in Etna Green, Indiana. A stranger coincidence is that I was married for 37 years to a descendent of Jacob Roggeveen, so by blood I have the Dutch East India Company in my line and by that marriage, the Dutch West India Company. Sadly that man inherited some flawed DNA and generational issues and dumped me, but coming from all of the pastors in the Heisler line, I was told by an intercessor I didn’t know that God chose me for the battle and HE would win the victory by peace reigning in my life. So I wait to see the outcome. I have Douglas Van Keuren’s book, too – gave both copies to my two sons – and in yet another wild coincidence, I live now just a few miles north of a Thomas Van Keuren in Oro Valley, Arizona! So hello to all the Miner kinfolk out there!
I’ve combed D G’s pages a bit, and have sent him a message, on the page he lists his source as “Source: Olde Vlster, date unk.” Olde Vlster is an old magazine of some kind and I think I have found a version of it and the date here: http://books.google.com/books?id=4O0pAQAAMAAJ&lpg=PA245&ots=6B6DnSkyno&dq=Vol.%20VI.%2C%20pages%20305-309%2C%20October%2C1910&pg=PA245#v=onepage&q=Vol.%20VI.,%20pages%20305-309,%20October,1910&f=false
Here’s DG’s article: http://www.angelfire.com/id/vancuren/news.html
Hello Mark, I am the McCobb family historian and genealogist and am interested where you found a birhtdate for Mary McCobb Latta who married Robert Glenn? you show her birth of 1739 and died 1839, (which correlates to her living one hundred years as noted in the Latta Family history) She had a brother William born 1757. I have seen other sites that say that Mary’s parents, Samuel Latta and Mary McCobb married in 1754. Can’t find support for her birth or her Mother’s marriage. Thanks
Allan,
Yes, my source for Mary Latta’s age is latta.org. The Captain of Latta Branch 3 is Alan L. Latta, P. O. Box 508, Inkom, ID 83245, allatta@aol.com.
Two other women from the Latta clan are proven centenarians.
101 years, 10 months, 28 days – Margaret Storey Latta born 26 Feb 1839 and her mother
100 Years 3 Months 23 Days – Mary Elizabeth McConahey Latta born 31 Jan 1804
Do you know anything more about Mary McCobb? What I have is she was born about 1719. Her parents were William McCOBB and Mary GLENN. She was sister of emigrants James McCobb. and Jane McClaghry.
Thanks for your quick reply. I did check Latta.org and I see that Mary Latta married Robert Glenn and she lived to be 100 years. However, I see no birthdate of 1739.
All I really have for her mother Mary McCobb, is that she was the daughter of William McCobb and brother of James McCobb. I have have seen one source that says her Mother was Jane McClaghry (which was the name of her brother’s wife). I had never seen her Mother shown as Mary Glenn. I don;t know the source of either “Mother listing”.
However, the same reference that has Jane McClaghry as her Mother says that her grandfather was William McCobb (born about 1678) and married Margaret Glenn. I find this strange, as Mary Latta Glenn’s daughter, Margaret Glenn (born 1782/83), married a William McCobb (born about 1796) and they resided in Crawford Co, Pa, after coming th the US in 1837.
I did send queries out to the person using Jane McClaghry as mary McCobb’s Mother. She also used 1754 as the marriage date for mary McCobb and Smauel Latta, which is 15 years after the 1739 birthdate of Mary Latta Glenn. . I do have all of the descendants of Mary’s brother James McCobb as well as those of her granddaughter, Margaret Glenn McCobb. Sadly, James had no sons and the McCobb surname also disappeared from Margaret McCobb’s line after one generation.
One interesting tidbit regarding the McCobb surname worldwide, is that anyone with this surname as of the year 2000, can be traced to only 6 ancestors, one of which is a non-blood black line.
Thanks for yor help. I probably need to contact alan Latta
Hi Allan,
There is a close similarity between this (4) Samuel Latta’s family in branch 3 and (1) James (1) Latta’s (1730 [or 1717] – ?) family in branch 4. Both families have a James, Samuel, Moses and William. In both trees James, Samuel and Moses immigrated to NY and William to PA. The captain for branch 4 is Randy Phillips, 1456 Lake Street, Elmira, NY 14901., parting_glass65@yahoo.com.
(4) James (2) Latta Jr. (1748-1816) in branch 4 also had children named Samuel, James, William and Mary. This Mary b. April 28, 1783 in New Windsor, Orange Co., N.Y.; d. August 18, 1864 in Bengal Township, Clinton County, Mich.; m. Joseph Hamer. Also seen as: Harner, Homer, Hommer, Hammer, & Harris, Randy found these names different in books in 1799. Lived at Lewiston, N.Y. and like her sister Agnes, saw her home burned by the British in 1812.
With seven small children found refuge at Genesee , N.Y. It is thought that she
joined the branch 3 Latta relatives. who lived in Charlotte in Monroe Co., NY, Near Rochester NY. This same area was also called ” Mouth of the Genesee”.}
There is a strong connection between these two families. Randy thinks the heads of branches 3 and 4 (Samuel and James) were brothers.
He also found a will of James McCobb of Handover Prect., Ulster Co., NY Merchant.leaving legacies to our James and Moses Latta. Executors the wife, GEORGE CLINTON, and James Buckley. He doesn’t say so explicitly, but implies this is the famous Governor and Vice President George Clinton.
btw, the 1739-1839 dates for our Mary come from Tereasa Guy’s family tree on ancestry.com.
I’m copying your comments onto Samuel Latta’s page.
You have created a wonderful website about your family. I found it as I was doing research on my own family for my own website: http://hylbom.com/family My site is very much still a “work in process”, but I’m making gradual progress on it. I have only looked at a small part of your site so far, but I’ve already found that we have several ancestors in common, including Thomas Minor of Chew magna, John Mason the “Indian fighter”, James Fitch and Abigail Whitfield, John Reynolds and Walter Palmer (from whom I am descended from three of his children by two different wives). I haven’t written up my section on Thomas Minor yet, and your research will be a great help. My site is also published with WordPress, and I have some questions about some technical details (i.e. design features, plug-ins, etc.) to apply to my own site. I can’t find a way to email you directly from the site, but if you would like to coorespond, you can connect to me through my site (link above – go to the “Contact” tab).
I cannot believe the wealth of information on this site. I believe I am related to this based on written family information (Josiah Wyatt, Jr. (G. grandson of Orlando Bagley) ?? If I’m remembering correctly. I’m so overwhelmed, my head is spinning from all of this information! I will continue to read and visit this site until EVERY word is read. (perhaps it will take another generation of time!)
Thank you for all your hard work and connecting us all!
Greeting!
My wife and I are descendants of Thomas Crosby who’s final resting place was in Rowley, MA. Do you have any further research to his and his wife’s burial place? We live in the town next to Rowley, so we can do some visiting of locations.
Here is our lineage.
Thomas Crosby 1575-1661 unknown Rowley, MA
Simon Crosby 1609-1639 unknown Cambridge, MA
Rev. Thomas Crosby 1634-1702 Granary Burial Ground Boston, MA
Joseph Crosby 1669-1725 Worden Cemetery East Dennis, MA
Theophilus Crosby 1693-1784 unknown Yarmouth County, MA maybe South or East Dennis
Lemuel Crosby 1726-1769 unknown, maybe Nova Scotia
James Crosby 1759-1844 unknown Yarmouth, Canada
Knowles Crosby 1789-1876 unknown Yarmouth, Canada
Ebenezer Crosby 1815-1898 unknown Yarmouth, Canada
Gilbert Reed Crosby 1852-1921 Central Cemetery Beverly, MA
Guy Almond Crosby 1885-1962 unknown
Carroll Winthrop Crosby 1925-2012 cremated Danvers, MA
James Michael Crosby 1961- resides in Groveland, MA
Melanie Dawn (Crosby) Carubia 1982- resides in Ipswich, MA
Thanks!
Kevin Carubia
Hi Kevin,
Thomas Crosby would have been buried in the Rowley Burial Ground, Findagrave.com com lists 1,573 internments, but no pictures of Crosby gravestones. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=91528&CScn=rowley&CScntry=4&CSst=21&
A lot of my ancestors lived in Rowley and some of the gravestones with skulls and wings are quite interesting. Just the thing for Halloween. . If you’re nearby, go take a look.
Main Street
Rowley
Essex County
Massachusetts USA
Postal Code: 01969
Phone: 978-948-2885
Hi again. Yes, I’ve been to the burial ground to look for his grave. Unfortunately, his was not listed and the grave stones haven’t held up to the test of time. There is a sign which states that this is the resting place of Rowley’s first settlers. My next step to see if there is a burial plot drawn up and on record with the town clerk or Rowley Historical Society.
Constance Crosby’s house no longer exists I have a feeling Thomas wasn’t buried in the burial ground, as it was customary to bury non-congregational members on their own property or in their own family plots. Also, the location of the current congregational church is not the original site of the first church. The original is where the old town hall annex building is. There could be more graves on that property.
Is there anything you would like me to check on in the Town Hall or Historical Society/
Hello! I happened upon your site looking for images of Gov Wm Bradford. The page that came up noted that Lt. Ephraim Morton was ‘Alex’s 9th gr grandfather.’ I’m assuming Alex is your son? The same Ephraim is also 9th gr grandfather to my children…(I was adding a few notes to my 5th grade daughter’s school handout on Plymouth and the pilgrims to tie in a bit of her history – noting that Gov Bradford adopted Ephraim upon George’s death). Our direct line of descent is George…Ephraim…Ephraim…John…David…David…Michael (Micah)…Zacheus…Warren Liscomb…Fred H (Sr) is my grandfather…and Wm G Morton is my dad (who I adore(d) and miss terribly). I never knew my grandfather, who was born nearly 90 years before me, as he died prior to my birth. I have an enormous amount of geneaology that takes the Morton family back to 900-1000 AD…an aunt by marriage compiled the information, gifting it to my father (her brother-in-law) a number of years ago. So there you go…looks like we’re related! ;0) I’ll enjoy looking over your site in the near future, preferably when it’s not 1am!
Hi Wendy,
Thank you for your post,
Mark
My family has genealogy research taking us back to John “Wing” and Deborah Bachiler (we had her last name as “Batchelder”). We are directly descended from John Wing II’s son Ananias. I cannot fully express how amazing it was to find out so much more information, including alternate surname spellings, thanks to your documentation work. Thank you. This is a treasure!
Hi Christine,
Thanks for your kind words,
Mark
My wife too is a descendant of Ananias Wing. Could you share some information regarding that lineage?
Hi Kevin,
I added a bio of Ananais Wing and a list of his children and their spouses to https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/15/john-wing-ii/
Cheers!
Mark
This is a great genealogical blog. I’m related to many of the people you are. I do have a question. How did you find out that Ephraim Coleman’s wife’s last name is Rogers? You also don’t put her last name on the list of siblings, but you put her last name in your little section about Mr. Ephraim Coleman.
Hi Jonathan,
I couldn’t find a historical marriage record, but dozens of ancestry.com genealogies show this relationship. I updated the list of siblings, changing the marriage location to Newbury, Mass to conform with the consensus.
Rgds, Mark
Thanks Mark! It’s frustrating when one hits a snare like Ananias’ wife Hannah. I’ll just leave it as “wing” until more information surfaces. We are descendants of his son John.
From the Wing Family Library I didn’t totally follow this, but it’s titled Ananais Wing and Hannah and other mysteries and may help you unravel your ancestor. Sorry it’s in all caps.
I AM SORRY I EVER STARTED THIS PARTICULAR PAGE. THIS HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT CONFUSING…AND REMAINS CONFUSING EVEN AS I WRITE THESE WORDS. THE CONFUSION STEMS FROM A VARIETY OF THINGS. TO BEGIN WITH (AS THOUGH THERE IS A GOOD PLACE TO BEGIN) THERE WERE 2 GIRLS APPARENTLY BORN ABOUT THE SAME TIME IN THE SAME AREA… TISBURY, DUKES CO., MASSACHUSETTS…HANNAH FREEMAN AND HANNAH TILTON. IT SEEMS THAT GOV. THOMAS PRENCE TOOK AS HIS 3RD WIFE, THE WIDOW APPHIA (?) FREEMAN…THE WIDOW OF SAMUEL FREEMAN, WHOSE SON JOHN FREEMAN IS MENTIONED IN GOV. PRENCE’S WILL…LUCKY JOHN RECEIVED 2 BOOKS FROM HIS STEP-FATHER:
“A FURTHER SUPPLEMENT OR ADDITION, AND PRTE OF THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF THE HONORED THOMAS PRENCE ESQR: DECEASED AS FOLLOWETH I GIVE UNTO MY SON, MR JOHN FFREEMAN SPEEDS CRONICLE AND WILSONS DICTIONARY AND THE ABRIDGMENT; AND SIMPSONS HISTORY OF THE CHURCH AND NEWMANS CONCORDANCE ”
ALONG WITH ALL OF THIS MESS, WE HAVE TO STIR IN A FEW MAYHEWS/MAYO’S AND SANBORN’S AND WING’S. I HOPE YOU CAN FOLLOW ME…I AM NOT EVEN SURE OF WHERE IT IS I AM GOING WITH THIS. ON DEC. 17, 1662 ALONG COMES SAMUEL TILTON, SON OF WILLIAM TILTON AND SUSANNAH, AND ON THIS DATE HE MARRIES HANNAH MOULTON…AND JUST TO KEEP THINGS HOPPING…WILLIAM SANBORN MARRIES MARY MOULTON. WILLIAM SANBORN IS THE SON OF ANN BACHILER WHO MARRIED JOHN SANBORN/SAMBORN. IF YOU READ THE TIMELINE YOU WILL KNOW THAT WILLIAM SANBORN CAME WITH HIS GRANDFATHER, REV. STEPHEN BACHILER AND DEBORAH WING AND HER 4 SONS ON THE WILLIAM AND FRANCIS. SO I THINK OUR FIRST INGREDIENT IN THIS STEW OF FAMILY WOULD BE WILLIAM SANBORN WHO MARRIED MARY MOULTON.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE SAMUEL TILTON MARRYING HANNAH MOULTON, AND WE HAVE WILLIAM SANBORN MARRYING MARY MOULTON AND SOMEHOW ALONG WITH ALL OF THIS MESS WE HAVE JOHN FREEMAN, STEPSON OF GOV. THOMAS PRENCE STUCK IN HERE FOR NO APPARENT REASON EXCEPT…THAT WALTER GOODWIN DAVIS, ONE OF THE RENOWNED HISTORIANS FOR THE TILTON FAMILY FOR SOME REASON (APPARENTLY HE HAD A GOOD ONE…ALTHOUGH I HAVEN’T FOUND IT YET) PROPOSES THAT HANNAH TILTON, THE DAUGHTER OF SAMUEL TILTON IS REALLY THE DAUGHTER OF SAMUEL FREEMAN. THERE IS NO SAMUEL FREEMAN MENTIONED IN GOV. PRENCE’S WILL…JUST JOHN FREEMAN. THERE ARE FAMILY CHARTS THAT INDICATE THAT SAMUEL FREEMAN AND APPHIA HAD A SON BY THE NAME OF SAMUEL, BUT FRANKLY I GAVE UP. I HAVE ALSO READ WHERE SAMUEL FREEMAN AND APPHIA HAD A DAUGHTER NAMED HANNAH FREEMAN.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE HAVE WILLIAM SANBORN AND MARY MOULTON WHO HAS A DAUGHTER BY THE NAME OF MEHITABLE. MEHITABLE RUNS OUT AND MARRIES DANIEL TILTON, THE BROTHER OF SAMUEL TILTON, THE FATHER (?) OF HANNAH TILTON. AND THEN, GUESS WHAT, WE HAVE NATHANIEL WING AND ANANIAS WING AND JOSEPH WING ALL RUNNING IN AND OUT OF HAMPTON, CHILMARK, TISBURY AND EVERY PLACE ELSE. JOSEPH WING (ANANIAS’S BROTHER) MARRIES JERUSHA MAYHEW WHO IS REAL TIGHT WITH GOV. THOMAS PRENCE AND HIS FAMILY (HE HAD 4 WIVES). OKAY, SO WE KNOW THAT NATHANIEL WING MARRIED SARAH HATCH…BUT HE WAITED TO MARRY UNTIL HE WAS ABOUT 40 YEARS OLD…WHAT IN THE HECK WAS HE DOING ALL THAT TIME? CHANCES ARE HE WAS HANGING OUT IN CHILMARK AND TISBURY WITH HIS COUSINS AND UNWITTINGLY HELPING TO CONFUSE FURTHER GENERATIONS…AND ALTHOUGH I HAVE NOT UNCOVERED ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE…IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NATHANIEL WAS MARRIED BEFORE HE MARRIED SARAH HATCH? WHO KNOWS? OKAY, SO WHILE JOSEPH, ANANIAS AND NATHANIEL WING ARE ALL CHASING ALL OVER MASSACHUSETTS, ANANIAS MEETS A GIRL NAMED HANNAH, FALLS IN LOVE AND MARRIES HER. ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE THE TILTON FAMILY HISTORIAN, WALTER GOODWIN DAVIS, WHO STATES THAT HANNAH TILTON MARRIES NATHANIEL WING…BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN WRITING THAT PROVES THAT…AND WE DO KNOW THAT ANANIAS WING MARRIED A GIRL NAMED HANNAH FROM TISBURY…AND SAMUEL TILTON MENTIONS HIS DAUGHTER HANNAH WING IN HIS WILL. WE ALSO MUST BEAR IN MIND THAT AROUND THIS TIME WE ONLY HAD ONE NATHANIEL WING AND CERTAINLY ONE ANANIAS WING.
THE OTHER THING TO BEAR IN MIND IS THAT NATHANIEL WING, FOR WHATEVER REASON MARRIED OUT OF THE QUAKER RELIGION. THERE IS NO INDICATION WHEN HE TURNED FROM HIS FATHER’S AND UNCLES’ RELIGION…BUT HE DID. SAMUEL TILTON WAS A QUAKER DOWN TO HIS TOES. BUT…WE STILL HAVE A MYSTERY GOING ON. GOV. THOMAS PRENCE WAS QUITE FAMOUS FOR HIS PERSECUTION OF QUAKERS…HE DIDN’T LIKE THEM….AND JUST TO KEEP THINGS EVEN MORE INTERESTING, THE NAME PRENCE IS PRONOUNCED PRINCE…AND WAS EVEN SPELLED THAT WAY BY GOV. PRENCE’S FOREFATHERS, BUT GOV. PRENCE, BEING THE INTERESTING FELLOW THAT HE WAS, CHANGED THE SPELLING TO PRENCE. HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY IN THE WORLD WE WOUND UP WITH SO MANY WING’S WHO HAD THE FIRST NAME OF PRINCE? I HAVE. NOW I THINK I AM GETTING A CLUE…PRINCE/PRENCE. THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT THE 3 PRINCE WING’S THAT I HAVE IN MY DATABASE AT THIS TIME ARE ALL DESCENDED FROM STEPHEN WING, WHO WAS THE FATHER OF NATHANIEL…BUT THE PRINCE USED AS A FIRST NAME SEEMS TO BE STARTED BY STEPHENS GRANDSONS BY OTHER SON’S, NOT BY NATHANIEL.
ANYHOW, AS I CONTINUE TO DROWN DEEPER AND DEEPER IN THIS MUCK, IT MIGHT ALSO BE INTERESTING TO KNOW THAT SAMUEL TILTON’S FATHER, WILLIAM SUPPOSEDLY PURCHASED THE LYNN PROPETY FROM JOHN WING, ANANIAS’S FATHER, WHEN THE WING FAMILY MOVED TO SANDWICH IN 1647. (SEE PHOEBE TILTON III:445-6). ANOTHER FACT IS THAT SAMUEL TILTON AND HIS WIFE, HANNAH MOULTON, HAD 2 OTHER DAUGHTERS THAT THEY NAMED RACHEL AND MARY…ANANIAS AND HANNAH HAD 5 DAUGHTERS AND THEIR NAMES WERE: HANNAH, RACHEL, MARY, ELIZABETH AND DEBORAH…NOT NECCESSARILY IN THAT ORDER. ANANIAS AND HANNAH ALSO NAMED ONE OF THEIR SON’S SAMUEL… ALTHOUGH I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPIER HAD THEY NAMED HIM “TILTON” OR “FREEMAN”.
ONE MORE TEENY ITEM TO INCLUDE HERE IS:
BANKS HISTORY OF MARTHA’S VINEYARD STATED “NATHANIEL WING, PROBABLY THE SON OF JOHN WING OF SANDWICH MA WAS A TRANSIENT RESIDENT OF WEST TISBURY MA IN 1686 AND ALSO OWNED LAND IN CHILMARK MA (BOTH MARTHA’S VINEYARD). IT IS ASSUMED THAT HE MARRIED HANNAH TILTON, DAUGHTER OF SAMUEL TILTON.” IT IS PROBABLE THAT THIS ACTUALLY REFERRED TO ANANIAS.
WELL, WE KNOW THAT JOHN WING WAS NOT THE FATHER OF NATHANIEL…SO THAT’S THE FIRST MISTAKE. AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN 1687 OR THERE-ABOUTS, NATHANIEL MARRIED SARAH HATCH. ONE OTHER TO CONSIDER, AND IT MIGHT SOUND SILLY, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE MENTIONED. I WONDER HOW MANY TIMES ANANIAS TOLD SOMEONE WHAT HIS NAME WAS AND THEY WENT “HUH?”…ANANIAS APPARENTLY WASN’T OVERLY FOND OF HIS NAME BECAUSE HE DOES NOT NAME ANY OF HIS SONS ANANIAS…BUT HE DOES NAME A SON ELNATHAN…OF COURSE, HE WOULD. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT ANANIAS SOMETIMES WENT BY NATHAN…OR A FORM THEREOF? TO TAKE IT A STRETCH FURTHER, ACCOUNTING FOR NEW ENGLAND ACCENTS, COULD ANANIAS AND NATHAN OR NATHANIEL SOUNDED ALIKE? JUST A THOUGHT.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE SAMUEL TILTON WHO NAMES HIS DAUGHTER, HANNAH WING IN HIS WILL. WE HAVE ANANIAS WHO WE DO KNOW MARRIED A HANNAH…WE HAVE NATHANIEL WHO WE KNOW MARRIED SARAH HATCH. ACCORDING TO WHICH FAMILY HISTORY YOU READ YOU WILL FIND THAT HANNAH FREEMAN SUPPOSEDLY MARRIED JOHN MAYO AND/OR NATHANIEL WING…AND YOU WILL READ THAT HANNAH TILTON ALSO MARRIED JOHN MAYO AND/OR NATHANIEL WING. I TEND TO BELIEVE THAT HANNAH FREEMAN DID INDEED MARRY JOHN MAYO/MAYHEW AND THAT HANNAH TILTON MARRIED ANANIAS WING…AND UNTIL I DISCOVER ANYTHING DIFFERENT, THATS MY STORY AND I’M GOING TO STICK TO IT.
ANANIAS WING WAS BORN IN YARMOUTH, PLYMOUTH COLONY ABOUT 1652. THERE IS NO RECORD OF ANANIAS’S BIRTH…BUT IT WAS SAID THAT THAT HE WAS YOUNGER THAN HIS BROTHER JOSEPH, AND OLDER THAN HIS BROTHER JOHN, WHICH PLACES HIS DATE OF BIRTH AROUND 1652. IN 1675 ANANIAS SIGNED A PETITION WHICH INDICATES THAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE BY THAT TIME.
ANANIAS WING MARRIED HANNAH TILTON IN TISBURY, DUKES, MASSACHUSETTS, THEIR DATE OF MARRIAGE IS UNKNOWN, BUT THEIR FIRST CHILD WAS BORN MAY 2, 1687. HANNAH WAS BORN IN HAMPTON, MASSACHUSETTS BAY COLONY ON SEPTEMBER 15, 1663, THE DAUGHTER OF SAMUEL TILTON AND HANNAH MOULTON. THE FACT THAT ANANIAS WING MARRIED A GIRL WHO WAS BORN IN HAMPTON, NEW HAMPSHIRE, THE TOWN THAT HIS GRANDFATHER, STEPHEN BACHILER FOUNDED, INDICATES THAT THE WING FAMILY AND THE BACHILER FAMILY MAY STILL HAVE KEPT IN TOUCH AND THAT PERHAPS ANANIAS WING MET HANNAH TILTON DURING A VISIT TO BACHILER RELATIVES IN HAMPTON.
IT MAY ALSO BE OF INTEREST OF WING AND BACHILER DESCENDANTS THAT HANNAH TILTON’S UNCLE, DANIEL TILTON MARRIED MEHITABLE SANBORNE, THE DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM SANBORNE AND MARY MOULTON. WILLIAM SANBORNE WAS THE SON OF JOHN SANBORN AND ANNE BACHILER. SO WE DO HAVE MANY FAMILY CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE WING’S AND THE BACHILER’S AND THE SANBORNE’S AND TILTON’S. IN FACT ,THIS WHOLE HISTORY BEGS FOR MORE RESEARCH AND AS TIME ALLOWS I WILL BE DELIGHTED TO RESEARCH THIS FURTHER..AND SHARE WHAT I LEARN.
WALTER GOODWIN DAVIS WHO IS THE FAMILY HISTORIAN FOR THE TILTON FAMILY STATES THAT THE WILL OF SAMUEL TILTON OF CHILMARK, MARTHA’S VINEYARD WHICH WAS MADE ON JUNE 5, 1718 NAMES A DAUGHTER, HANNAH WING. DAVIS MISTAKENLY THOUGHT THAT HANNAH TILTON MARRIED NATHANIEL WING, BUT THE ONLY NATHANIEL WING AROUND AT THAT TIME WAS THE SON OF STEPHEN WING AND HE WOULD MARRY SARAH HATCH AROUND 1687.
ANANIAS WING WAS ONE OF THE CITIZENS OF YARMOUTH WHO LOST HORSES IN THE FIRST EXPEDITION TO MOUNT HOPE AGAINST KING PHILIP IN 1675. ANANIAS WAS ASSESSED £3,16 S. DR. CONWAY WING HAS NOTED THAT ANANIAS WING UNITED WITH MANY OTHER IN PETITIONING GOV. JOSIAH WINSLOW AND THE GENERAL COURT ON THE SUBJECT OF WAR AGAINST THE NARRAGANSETT INDIANS. ANANIAS FINALLY WENT TO WAR AS A PRIVATE SOLDIER UNDER CAPTAIN JOHN GORHAM IN THE SECOND EXPEDITION AGAINST THE TRIBE IN 1676, WHEN THE TROOPS SUFFERED SO SEVERELY. ANANIAS WING IS MENTIONED IN 1733 AS ONE WHO WOULD RECEIVE A GRANT OF LAND IN THE PROVINCE OF MAINE (TOWN OF GORHAM) FOR SEVING IN THE INDIAN WARS…BUT ANANIAS DID NOT LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT HE WAS EVEN APPRECIATED, MUCH LESS SERVED A GRANT OF LAND.
IT IS BELIEVED THAT THE OLD ORCHARD, KNOWN AS “WING’S ORCHARD,” NEAR THE SAUTUCKETT, WAS THE HOME OF ANANIAS. ANANIAS INHERITED THIS PROPERTY FROM HIS FATHER, JOHN WING.
ANANIAS DIED TESTATE. WILL DATED 1718, PROVED SEPT. 17, 1718. SON ELNATHAN WING EXECUTOR; MENTIONS “DEAR AND LOVING WIFE,” MOTHER OF HIS CHILDREN OR SOME OF THEM, BUT NO NAME. MENTIONS SONS ELNATHAN, SAMUEL, JOHN AND JOSEPH; DAUGHTERS DEBORAH WEEKS, HANNAH (ASTIN?), RACHEL, ELIZABETH AND MARY.
ANANIAS WING AND HANNAH TILTON HAD THE FOLLOWING CHILDREN:
1. DEBORAH WING, BORN 1687, PROBABLY IN HARWICH, BARNSTABLE, MASSACHUSETTS.
2. HANNAH WING, BORN AUGUST, 1690, PROBABLY IN HARWICH, BARNSTABLE, MASSACHUSETTS.
3. ELNATHAN WING, BORN OCTOBER 20, 1692, PROBABLY IN HARWICH, BREWSTER, MASSACHUETTS.
4. SAMUEL WING, BORN, AUGUST, 1694, IN HARWICH, BREWSTER, MASSACHUETTS (SAUTUCKET)
5. RACHEL WING, BORN DECEMBER 20, 1697, IN HARWICH, BREWSTER, MASSACHUSETTS (FORMERLY SAUTUCKET).
6. ELIZABETH WING, BORN FREBRUARY, 1699/1700, IN HARWICH, BREWSTER, MASCHUSETTS (FORMERLY SAUTUCKET).
7. JOHN WING, BORN APRIL 3, 1702 IN HARWICH, BREWSTER, MASSACHUSETTS (FORMERLY SAUTUCKET).
8. MARY WING, BORN MAY 18, 1704 IN HARWICH, BREWSTER, MASSACHUSETTS (FORMERLY SAUTUCKET).
9. JOSEPH WING, BORN SEPTEMBER 17, 1707 IN HARWICH, BREWSTER, MASSACHUSETTS (FORMERLY SAUTUCKET).
Hi There! I stumbled across your site as I was researching our Morton Roots..George Morton is my 10th great-grandfather…and the more I find out, the more my jaw-drops! Just saying “hi”!, and cant wait to share with the family! -Theresa DeBoise Harris
Came across your website while researching Mary Ann Chase, wife of Timothy Corbin, (perhaps) daughter of Daniel Chase. You are to be commended not only for the research you have accomplished, but for this fantastic website and the way you have put it together. What an amazing body of work!
Hi Rita,
Thanks for the kind words. This project wouldn’t be any fun without sharing.
Happy New Year, Mark
Hello. I just discovered your fantastic site today while searching for information about Alexander Balcom.
I’m a little confused about the marriage dates for Isaac Allen.
Two marriages – same date…
1. Katherine Balcom c. 1661
Providence RI Isaac Allen
30 May 1673 Rehoboth, Mass.
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Daniel Jenks
before 1692
Cumberland, Providence, Rhode Island 1729
Cumberland, Providence, Rhode Island
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Isaac Allen was born about 1642 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass. His parents were John Allen and Christian Bacon. He first married Mary Bowen (b: 18 Jan 1652 in Rehoboth) on 30 May 1673 in Rehoboth.
Happy New Year!
Jo Ann
Hi Jo Ann,
Thanks for the catch. Isaac Allen married Katherine Balcom about 1682 before their first child Katharine Allen was born 18 Jan 1683 in Rehoboth, Bristol, Mass. I don’t see a record of the marriage Isaac’s parents were John Allen and Christian Bacon. His grandparents were my ancestors George ALLEN and Katherine [WATTS?].
More about Isaac’s first wife Mary Bowen who he married on 30 May 1673 in Rehoboth. Her parents were Obidiah Bowen and Mary Clifton. She was born 18 Jan 1652 in Rehoboth and died 20 Aug 1678.
Happy New Year, Mark
Thank you very much!
Alex?–or whoever has created this site.
I would like to get in contact with you. My father is reseaching the CORSER family history. We would like to know where in English William Courser was born in 1609. I am 10th generation Corser. We have compiled the entire Corser family history back to that date.
Please can you email my dad (Ron)?
Jenny
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Hi Mark,
Great website. I am curious how you are related to John Masters. I have been researching my Marster/Master line for awhile and trying to piece together my older ancestors one of whom I believe is this John Masters.
Regards,
Chris
Mark,
I added Pvt. Herman S. Webber, Co. B, 3rd ME Infantry and photo to Find A Grave http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=105998579
Thought you might find this of interest. I will scan a tin type of Virgil E. Webber, Co. E, 16th Maine and submit to Find A Grave in the Gettysburg National Cemetery. He was possibly buried as “unknown” in the Maine section ( KIA 1 July !863, Gettysburg). I have two, handwritten letters your great-grandmother Nellie Coleman wrote to an aunt. If you are interested in them let me know. You can have them. Regards, Chuck Russell, Bismarck, ND
Hi Chuck,
Thanks for adding the two pix. I loaded them to my pages https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/15/oliver-webber/ and https://minerdescent.com/2012/06/18/maine-volunteers/
I flipped Herman’s picture so the “B” and “3” on his hat weren’t mirror images. Thanks for your offer of Nellie;s letters. It would be fun to see them. I’ll email my email and physical addresses to you, whichever is easier.
Thanks again, Mark
Mark,
Pvt. Virgil H. Webber, Co. E, 16th Maine Infantry
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=106003505
(Please note corretion of middle initial). Your Great-grandmother’s letters were written in 1890 and 1891, both to Aunt Elvira who I am sure was G. D. Coleman’s sister.
Regards, Chuck Russell
Please note that no one was burned at the stake at Salem. All victims were hanged, except for Giles Corey, who was pressed to death with stones. Thanks for this project!
A very impressive site. Thanks for all the work.
If I may, though, there is one correction that needs to be made. In the Turk/Turck line of the family you have fallen into the trap regarding Peter (Petrus) Turk/Turck. You have:
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v. Petrus “Peter” Turk b. ~1798 in Kingston, Ulster, NY; d. 12 Nov 1882 in Flatbush Reformed Church, Ulster, NY; m. Getty Osterhout (b. ~ 1804 in New York – d. 13 Sep 1875 in Ulster County, NY) Peter and Getty had at least two children Abraham (b. 1834) and Amelia (b. 1837)
In the 1850 census Peter and Gitty K. were farming in Kingston, Ulster, New York.
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This is an error that goes back to a variety of printed genealogies and other sources. In a nutshell, there are (at least!) two Peter Turck/Turck’s from the Kingston area, both born within a decade of each other.
The Peter/Petrus Turk/Turck born and baptized in Kingston 11 March 1798 married Rachel Gay (b. 1799, Greene Co., NY) in 1820 in Greene Co., NY, and emigrated to Mequon, Washington (later Ozaukee) Co., Wisconsin in 1837. They may have lived in the Palmyra/Macedon, NY area circa 1830-37 (I’m still working on that).
Peter Turck and family lived in Mequon until the mid-1850s, then in Milwaukee, and he died in Madison, WI, on 5 Sept. 1872. He is buried in Forest Home cemetery in Milwaukee. I have done a lot of research on this family and I am very confident in the above information.
He had, I believe, nine children with his first wife, Rachel Gay. Most of the children lived well into adulthood, married and had children.
Rachel died in 1841. In 1848 Peter married again, to Christina Koehler/Kaehler. They had one daughter, who died in her teens in 1861. Christina died eleven days later.
The “other” Peter Turck was born about 1797 in New York (near Kingston, if I recall correctly) and married Gitty Catherine Osterhout/Osterhoudt (b, 1804). They had (at least) 4 children. The two you mentioned (Abraham and Amelia, above) and also Gertrude “Girty” Catherine (1821-1899) and Benjamin (b. about 1840, d. after 1860). This Peter Turck remained in Ulster Co., NY, his entire life. He died in 1882. His wife Gitty died in 1875. They are both buried at the Burhans Family burial ground in Ulster Co.
I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if you would like further information.
Hi Reed,
Thanks for the information, Peter had an interesting life. Did you notice his second wife was thirty years younger. In the process of inputing Peter’s genealogy in my regular style, I noticed that his gravestone shows his birth as Kinderhook, Columbia, New York. Forty miles upriver from Kingston. Find A Grave Memorial# 91864505
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgiI?page=gr&GRid=9186450
After more hunting than I originally planned, my tentative conclusion is that Peter was the second cousin of the Peter who was the son of Jacob Turk and Annatje Folant. I think it is more likely that his parents were Jacob Turk and Mary Klein. I think Mary was the daughter or granddaughter of Palantine refugees.
I also tried to trace the career of Peter’s second wife, Christina Koehler. It looks like she was German and immigrated with her parents from Amsterdam to Philadelphia in 1832. I may have found her parents George and Catharina Kohler.
See my page for Peter’s great grandfather https://minerdescent.com/2010/08/10/johannes-turk/
for the details on what I discovered.
McClasky Family Tree on ancestry.com shows Peter’s birthplace as Germantown, Columbia, New York
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/14784953/person/19806507035
By the way, I have three Palantine Refugees in my family tree. They had an interesting journey. See my tag: https://minerdescent.com/tag/palantine-refugee/
Rgds, Mark
Mark, I’m reading your page on John French and, which many online trees report this, I’m questioning if it is the correct spouse.
Trying to document the tree on Geni and I’m wondering if John French (1622-1697) actually married Freedom’s Aunt, who I’ve seen as Grace Freedom Kingsley. Here is the FindAGrave for Grace, which the gravestone states she is the wife of John French: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=13727932
Grace was born in 1621 and died in 1680. The death timeline would seem to fit with what I have as John’s second marriage in 1683 to Elinor Thompson. I’ve even seen a site that has all three: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/k/Jody-L-Mckinney-sr-WA/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-1305.html
I’ve also seen John’s youngest son John Jr. as being born in 1641, Mary 1642, Dependence 1648 – dates that would be too early for Freedom. So if can clear up the confusion, I’d be much appreciative.
Ok, I’ve done some additional research and it looks like another John French (1612-1693) married Grace. Somehow these two lines have been tangled online. This appears to be the John that married Grace and Elinor, which appears different then the John (1622-1697) who married Freedom. http://www.musgravia.4t.com/French/french_chart_Before.htm
Jeff,
I’m still trying to untangle these two John Frenchs. It seems clear that there were two men both named John French. My ancestor who lived in Ipswich and another John French lived fifty miles away in Baintree. The Ipswich John married Freedom and the Baintree John married Grace. Freedom’s father John Kingsley was born in 1614. On 3 Jun 1635, John Kingsley, his brother Stephen, and Captain John Smith sailed on the James from Bristol, England. Among the one-hundred passengers on board was a minister Richard Mather who sailed in disguise to America in escape from the wrath of King Charles. He wrote a journal giving details of the trip.
In order for John Kingsley to be Grace’s father his birth was pushed back 14 years to 1600
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From what I understand thus far, Grace was Freedom’s aunt. Grace was the daughter of John Kingsley (b1579) and Katherine Butler. John Kingsley (b1614) and Grace Kingsley (b1621) were siblings.
We are tracing the John Boynton lineage and were fascinated to read your articles. We have stumbled in our search at Richard Boynton Jr., son of Richard Boynton and father to John Boynton. Richard Jr. was born in Rowley in 1706 and owned farmland in Harvard. He died at the doctors house in Tewsbury on Feb.1.1754. However we cannot find where he was buried. A book titled, “Geneology of the descendents of William and John Boynton” does not mention much about Richard Jr. or of his children. We do know that John Boynton, Richard Jr.’s son, born Feb. 11, 1743 was 11 yrs old when his father died. His mother was Jerusha Hutchins. We don’t know what happened to her about his death. Did she remarry? The children, 6 of them, were dispersed among other family because she couldn’t take care of them. Can you shed any light on this family at this time? What happened to John Boynton? He is in our direct lineage. Thank you so much for any assistance you can provide.
Can you tell me the source of the etching of Nathanael & Catharine Greene? It’s the first picture I’ve seen of Caty that shows why she was pursued by so many men. Where did you find the etching? Thanks
Here’s the link where I found the picture:
http://www.revolutionarywararchives.org/greenecaty.html
Can you tell me the source of the picture of Nathanael & Catharine Greene? It’s the best one I’ve ever seen of Caty. I’m writing a book that includes a major section on the Greenes. Many thanks.
Here’s the link where I found the picture:
http://www.revolutionarywararchives.org/greenecaty.html
Mark
I am trying to track down information on William Brown(b.1794) who married Ruth Wasson (b.1798) in 1820. I saw a reference in the New Brunswick First Families publication that suggest he and his sister were Loyalist from NY (which didn’t seem to make sense given his birth date). Your research shows him born in England and his parents as Francis Brown and Sidney Green of Elsbrow, England. Do you have any references you can refer me to, to allow me dig deeper? I also saw another family tree reference to this William Brown being born in a different town in England. Any info you could share would be very much appreciated. Also was this Wasson Family Loyalist or planters?
Thanks
Bill Brown
Couldn’t find more on the Browns.
Planters and Pioneers, Nova Scotia 1749-1775 by Dr. Esther Clark Wright has the following citation. I don’t have the book, just found the citation.
http://www.plantersandpioneers.com/pioneer.html
WASSON, JOHN MAUGERVILLE 176-
m1. Ann, sister of Thomas Christy; m2. Hannah Estey; Ch: Betty, Ann, Susan, (2d) Sarah, John, James, Hannah, Thomas, Mary, Robert, Ruth Charlotte, George.
John Wasson was quite a bit older than Hannah, his second wife. I couldn’t find if he was a planter or loyalist. While his name doesn’t appear on the 1783 Studholm Report, I would guess planter.
Hannah’s husband John Wasson was born 1741 – Chester, Rockingham, New Hampshire. His parents were Lt. Col. Thomas Wasson (b. 1701 in Village of Ballymena, Ballymanus Parish (Antrim) Northern Ireland – d. Jan 1801 in Chester, Rockingham, NH) and Ann Wright (b,23 Oct 1715 in Village of Dunblane (Perthshire) Scotland).
Thomas Wason came to America approximately 1728 with his brother James and with his two sisters Isabel (married John Caldwell, 1734) and Margaret (married James Caldwell, 1740) James settled in Portsmouth NH 1736 then to Nottingham West now Hudson, NH. Another brother, David Wasson did not emigrate and remained in Clough, Ballymena, County Antrim, Northern Ireland and the Wasson family still lives in Clough today as well as the Calwells, (Caldwells).
When Isabel Wason and James Caldwell married, they stated that they lived in the village of Clough, Ballymena, County Antrim. A researcher found the four room cottage (No longer occupied) that the Wasons probably lived in next to the Clough Presbyterian Church
1733, October 11: Thomas Wasson married Ann Wright in the Second Church at Scituate Village (Plymouth) Massachusetts Colony.
Source: “Thomas Wason of Chester, New Hampshire; And His Descendants” by Alice Lucinda Priest; revised, unpublished manuscript; Shenandoah, Iowa; 1931 (Iowa State Library, Des Moines)
John first married Ann Christy and had two children Betty Ann (b. 1767) and Susan (b.1768). John died Jan 1823 in Sheffield, New Brunswick, Canada.
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=398&p=surnames.wasson
Hi Mark,
I appreciate your Latta work. I may be able to add something. Mary Latta married Williams Thompson and have 7 children. You have nothing for the youngest child, Samuel Thompson. I have been researching him and you can find it in my Tannehill tree. Samuel married in Rock Bluff, Cass County, Nebraska, which may solve your problem re which William Thompson of that generation to follow.
Hi Ona,
Here’s what I found. Do you have more?
vii. Samuel Rankin Thompson b. 17 Apr 1833 Shenango, Pennsylvania; m. 3 Aug 1859 – Rock Bluff, Cass, Nebraska by Rev LC West Baptist minister and probate judge to Lucy Gilmour (b. 15 May 1836 in Orchard Lake, Michigan Territory) Her parents were William Sr Gilmour (1804 – 1876) and Lucy Anne Thompson (1811 – 1881) Samuel and Lucy had at least one child, Mary (b. 1867)
Yes, I see you updated Samuel R. Thompson. As he has no descendants I thought it was important to show he had a life! Thanks. Samuel died 28 Oct 1896 in New Wilmington PA. Lucy died about 1920. Their daughter Mary lived from 23 Jul 1867 to 19 Mar 1886. I haven’t finished my research on this family; will let you know when….
In the meatime, there are some tangles in the Thompson family. William and Mary (Latta) Thompson living with their daughter Eliza Jane and her husband Robert Snodgrass in 1860. Actually the elder Thompsons lived with their daughter Nancy and her husband William Snodgrass. Two sisters apparently married two brothers. I will try to untangle this, but the 1860 census is clear about Nancy, who is not on your list of offspring for William and Mary Thompson. You do, however, show a Samuel E. Thompson where I think Nancy should be. Aside from the surname Snodgrass, these people drive me nuts with their common names!
Hello, I’ve been trying to run down leads that I got from DNA to find my Bailey family. There are two families that are very interesting matches. One is a Benjamin Bailey m. Mary Parmenter (1707-1769) and the other is Ebenezer Bailey III m. Runa Benjamin. She is the grand daughter of Samuel Clarke Benjamin and Phebe Minor. Your website seems to bring the Parmenters, Benjamins and Minors together. I was wondering if you might have some insight to any of these families, like who are Mary Parmenter’s parents? You proved she isn’t the daughter of Joseph and Mary Gibbs.
Hi Eric,
Mary is one of my 44 ancestors “missing parents”. I remember spending a couple of hours looking for this one and coming up empty.
Rgds, Mark
Thank you for the reply and posting so much information on this website. Just FYI I match three descendants of John Pamenter m. Mary Eames, and one of Bathshebah Parmenter m. Jonas Rice. So Mary must fit in the Sudbury Parmenters… easier said than done I know….
I am descended from Loring Webber of Clinton, Maine. In the History of Kennebec County, it states that in Clinton, George Webber, (brother of my gr-gr grandmother Caroline), was the son of Loring Webber and the grandson of Rev. Charles Webber who died in Winslow about 1840. Loring was born in Vassalboro. On the Miner Descent website, specifically on the page of Charles Webber Jr.,(son of Charles B. Webber. and Hannah Call), Loring is listed under “Other Webbers in Kennebec, Maine in 1850 census (For process of elimination of Charles Webber’s children)”. When the History of Kennebec County was written, George Webber was still living and would have known who his own grandfather was, so shouldn’t I believe that Loring is in fact a son of Charles Webber Jr.? I also found a marriage record in the Yarmouth, Massachusetts Vital Records Volume 1 which gives the marriage record of “Charles Webber of Vasselborough in the county of Linclon, (sic) to Molly Sturges Yarmouth April 18, 1793”. Molly and Polly were common nicknames for Mary. I believe that Charles Webber Jr. and Mary or Molly Sturges Webber were the parents of Loring Webber who moved to Clinton, (Clinton and Vassalboro are only about 10 miles apart). Loring also had a son and a grandson named Charles Is there a way to verify this tie?
Hi Cheri,
I’ve spent more time on Charles Webber Jr than any other ancestor. His brothers, sisters, nephews and nieces are all well documented. Why is there no record of his twelve children?
I’ve moved Loring from the list of “other” Webbers to the list of Charles’ possible children. I assume I didn’t include him at first because the History of Kennebec County says his father was Rev. Charles Webber and I didn’t know he was a clergyman. However, I did have this record:
A powerful revival in 1805, under the preaching of Rev. Asa Wilbur, resulted in the formation of a second Baptist church, February 7, 1806. The organization was perfected at the house of Benjamin Dyer, on the river road, and signed by seventeen members: Nathaniel Reynolds, jun., Edmund Hayward, Asa Williams, Benjamin Dyer, John Sawtelle, Charles Webber, jun., Henry Babcock, Mary Matthews, Mary Reynolds, Jemima Dyer, Mercy Matthews, Thankful Faught, Elizabeth Andrews, Eunice Williams, Abigail Tuttle, Sarah Ingraham and Susanna Hayward.
The Webbers and most of the early residents of Vassalboro were from Yarmouth. Interesting that Charles went back down south to be married.
Hi Cheri,
I also found the following which I had mislaid when I first replied to you. one of my genealogy friends is a descendant of Wallace Gilbert. Our grandmothers corresponded about genealogy around 1960!
Illustrated History of Kennebec County 1892 – One other place and kind of worship will not be forgotten so long as the links of tradition can touch each other — the church and teachings of Charles Webber, who resided on the river road near Riverside, in the house now occupied by Wallace W. Gilbert. Across the road, on what is known as the James S. Emery place, Mr. Webber erected a small edifice in the last few years of the last century. Here he had preaching of his own, and constituted himself the pastor. What was more conspicuous in this arrangement was the fact that said Webber could not read, and depended upon his wife for that important attribute. He could readily grasp the scripture reading of his wife and give wholesome explanation thereon; and only once was his knowledge clouded, when his wife read “log” for “lodge” in the wilderness. His manner of announcing a text was: ” If Polly tells me aright you will find my text, etc.” He urged sinners to repent, often saying that it was as impossible for one to enter heaven as it was for a shad to climb a tree. His eccentricities and goodness survive him, as does the old church, which, on another site, is the residence of Freeman Sturgis.
Hi Mark, very interesting site, though I would comment that the Scudder Arms, granted to Scudder , probably Henry, of North Cray in 1574, are incorrect, the cinquefoils are in chief not on the fess where the roundels should be, I have previously advised the pedlars of armorial history who disseminated this incorrect information but they are not interested. I would opine that the College of Arms are the most likely to be correct in this. See http://skudders.weebly.com/heraldry–armorial-inscriptions.html. Regards
Hi Simon,
Thanks for your note. I put it on my pages for Henry and John Scudder, right under the coat of arm image.
Based on your comment, I also put them into the “Immigrant Coat of Arm” category. Out of my 400+ immigrant ancestor families, only 26 actually may have had a coat of arms at the time. It is interesting how the fact that most early immigrant were yeomen, is still reflected in the american character today.
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Hi Mark,
Thank you for publishing your work on Miner and related ancestors! I am fascinated by the details, especially love the pictures of what those places look like today.
I was delighted to find, at InternetArchives.com, the book you quoted from by Higginson: New-England plantation with a sea journal –
https://archive.org/stream/newenglandsplant00higgrich#page/60/mode/2up
warm regards,
April Dauenhauer
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Wow! This is an AMAZING site! Lots of great information! I only learned last year that my 4 siblings and I are “direct” descendants of the Miners on my paternal grandfather’s side via our 6th great-grandmother Sarah Miner (1766-), wife of John Carter (1760-?) and the daughter of Ezekiel Miner, Sr. (1723-1780) and Margaret Beckwith (1726-1767).
I recently found your website and am absolutely amazed at ALL the great and powerful information you have on this site. I have a mixture of relations such as names of Thomas and Robert Barnard the Macy Family etc. It seems more and more lately I do indeed find my relatives neighbors mentioned in other’s family trees. Out of the 5 years in doing family research. I am seeing this happening a lot more with my family and very happy to see correlations with other families be it witnessing a document back then etc. Thank you for sharing this beautiful piece of artwork.
I think it’s already been said countless times on here, but hey- it can’t be said ENOUGH — your work is simply amazing Mark! What a fascinating journey you’ve taken to compile the information found on ‘Miner Descent’. ~~~Your work is appreciated beyond words~~~
This is such a wonderful site. I am a descendent of John Pease/Abigail Randall. While looking through your information, I see that you have stated that Robert Pease Jr (married to Hannah Sexton) was a revolutionary soldier. I am a member of the DAR and my original patriot is his son, Alpheus. I’d like to know where to find the record of Robert’s service. He is not a “proven” patriot and I’d love to get him added to the ranks. The only pension record is for another Robert (married to Anna Sexton) who was a private and about 20 years too young.
Hi Katherine,
I got the info from ancestry.com. My account there is inactive, so I can’t double check for you. Could be another Robert Pease from Connecticut. so many Roberty Peases to keep track off. (lol)
Thanks for your comment,
Mark
Hi Mark,
Regarding the Nicholas Brown line, you list information that I have not previously seen on his wife Elizabeth. I’ve found no valid source as to her parents, or the surname you are showing for her. I would appreciate learning of your source.
Thank you in advance
Hi Tom,
I don’t have documentation, but have seen it repeated in several places. Probably conjecture. Some sources say that Elizabeth’s older sister married the father of Elizabeth’s husband which sounds incestous to me, even if Jane was Edward’s second wife and not Nicholas’ mother. Other sources say that Thomas Lide and Jane Gibbs were Jane’s parents and Nicholas’ grandparents.
Mark
Hi Mark. I’m interested in William Reade (Woburn), the alleged son of Sir Thomas Reade of Brocket Hall. I know that what you’ve written has been widely accepted in books and histories since the early 1800s, but there’s much about that connection that concerns me. Dates don’t always work, and I’m wondering why William lived and died in Newcastle, some distance from where he reportedly grew up in Hertfordshire, when he returned to England from America. Do you know if there are baptismal records of William’s children, the ones who were born in England, in Hertfordshire? That could be important evidence. Anything you could give me to link William to Sir Thomas and the Brockets would be most appreciated.
OK so I’m confused. I came upon your pages here adding a “few” names onto my ancestry.com tree for Winne, my Maria Winne m. Cornelius J. Schermerhorn, and progressed onto the multiple Pieter Winnes (Pieter D–> Daniel –> Pieter Franciscus–> Franciscus Winne, my 10th great-grandfather. But ok, I know the Miner name. Capt. Thomas Minor is also my 10th great-grandfather (McConnell–> Hitchcock–> Langdon–> Avery–> Rebecca Miner –> Samuel –> Elnathan–> Deacon Manassah–> Capt Thomas). I’ve got Millers. I’ve got Averys, Wilcox. But WHERE is my connection between Winne and Miner?! I’ve got Reeds too – She & her husband Nathaniel Porter were both born on the Mayflower. This is my mother’s mother’s lineage. And I have Brewsters on the other side of my tree, my mother’s father’s side, including Benjamin and the other leaders of the Mayflower Compact. My tree is HHHHHHEAVY with founding fathers. (I’m rather said I can’t claim them….). But where, oh where, do my Winnes connect with Miners? Thanks.
Thinking further on this query, there is no connection between the two lines, occurring because of marriages. My Schermerhorn and McConnell lines are very separate lines. Thanks.
Correction: (I’m rather sad I can’t claim them….)….but they do make me feel good “all under.”
Sue, Someone has mixed the John Hoyt of Amesbury, MA, with another John of Connecticut. The John Hoyt who married Frances Tewksbury, never left the Salisbury / Amesbury area. The Amesbury VRs give his death as 1 March 1687/88, and have him buried in Golgotha Cemetery there. I can send you a PDF of what I’ve found about this John Hoyt – if you would like to provide me with an email address. It is rather too long for this format, and I know you would prefer to review it before posting it, or making any corrections.
Hi Mark,
We are related through the Howland / Weldon line through Joseph Whilldin and Mary Wilmon. As others have said, this research is fabulous and must have taken a tremendous effort. I was wondering if you had a tree style visual to represent it? In it’s current state, I’m having a bit of difficulty identifying the relationships between generations. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
Olivia
Hi! I came upon your website, Miner Descent, when I Googled my ancestor, Anarcher the Great Forester of Flanders, and stayed to read some of your blogs. Your blog is very well researched, well written, well illustrated, and well organized and it includes several “fun” categories. It’s one of the best blogs I’ve ever seen – so far. I’ve been doing family research for the last 37 years. I was an English major and I spent 21 years in the newspapers. I like to write. But I can’t even get any of my three nephews interested in the stories about their ancestors. Your granddaughter is very lucky to have you as her grandfather. I envy you. Compared to you, I feel like a piker.
Hi Wilbur,
Thank you. Yours is the nicest comment about my blog in a long time, if not ever. I don’t think one gets interested in genealogy until later, so there is still a chance for your nephews. We’ll see if this wordpress version lasts as long as my grandmothers’ hand written notes. I think I’ve found everyone there is to find, so I post now on neighborhood history instead. One or two genealogy mysteries may still have answers (or maybe not)
Thanks again, Mark
Thank you for sharing these history gems. I’ve accessed your blog by way of the Bradley name. My interest is of an Oliver Bradley who resided along the River St. John. Interesting tales of John Bradley in VT. His d. Abigail is my g g -grand.
We have many ancestors in common and I found this site so helpful in putting this book together on the lines of my paternal grandmother. http://issuu.com/ccferguson/docs/the_slocums_9.4.14
Hi Mark, love your site. I never thought of using Word Press for this, looks like it works well.
We share several ancestors, like Ralph Smith, Edmund Freeman, the Elder William Brewster, gov Prence…. And the list goes on. I really wish Find A Grave would use so e of your photos, they are much better quality that what I’ve seen there for some of your/our family. Can you PM me at paulhepfer@me.com, I have some additional questions for you when you have a few minutes.
Paul
Well done, cousin.
🙂 Thanks
Would you happen to know what happened to the properties at Eye-Kettelby, Leicestershire, England, after William DIGBY died in 1558?
Scroll down to a picture of “Civil War Mound and Urn” (a New York History blog) and you will read of two Miners buried there …..22nd infantry, Hartford New york cemetery
Alma Mary Hamilton/Houston of Brisbane, Queensland, and Juanita Hamilton/Goodland of Theodore are the grand-daughters of Mary Eliza Miller who married Clyde Milton Hamilton.
Their father Clyde Frank (aka Francisco) came to Australia with the US Army in 1942. He was discharged in Australia and never returned to Oregon. Alma (aka as Mary) has one grandson and three grand-daughters. Juanita had four sons ( one deceased) and a daughter. She has two grandsons and two grand daughters. Clyde died 12 July 1989 and his wife Florence Hazel Alexander died 01 January 2001. There are remnants of the Miller line here in Queensland.
Cheers
Bernard W.Houston
Nice to meet you Bernard. My grandmother Genevieve was very fond of Uncle Gene and Aunt Lillian, the patriarch and matriarch of this line.
My fiancee’s cousins were visiting from Australia earlier this month. They manage a vineyard in the Mudgee Area of New South Wales. GJ in the first year of college, cool australian accent.
All the best,
Mark
Hi Mark, I’m doing research on my Minard line and was wondering if you’ve stumbled across the spelling of Miner as Minard? My ancestor George Minard (b. 1785 in Bellows Falls, Vermont; married Elizabeth Dingman) is a bit of a mystery in terms of who his father is. People on ancestry.com seem to point to a William Minard of New London, CT, but nobody is really sure because William Minard’s wife’s DOB is 10 years prior to George’s birth (I’m really hoping she didn’t have a child at 10 years of age). I’ve recently taken a DNA test on ancestry and have been matched up with tons of people who have Shaw, Pratt, Wood, Woodward, Perkins, Phelps, and several others in their trees, oftentimes grouped together. I started to see this pattern before coming to your site, and now all of a sudden I see these names on here and I begin to wonder if Minard was originally Miner. Gedmatch has also matched me up with Ayers, Greene, and Sargent families. Any ideas here? Could it just be coincidental?
Hi Sarah,
I think Miner and Minard are separate names. The original spelling of my family line was Minor. The original immigrant, Thomas Miner, wrote back to England in his 80’s and received a genealogy that stated his ancestors were given a coat of arms by King Richard and the correct spelling was “Miner” Half the family changed to Miner and half stayed with Minor. The genealogy turns out to be totally bogus.
See my post – https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/13/a-false-herauldical-essay-upon-the-surname-of-miner/
Cheers!
Mark Miner
Hi, I ran across your website researching the Towne family, specifically Sarah the witch, who was married to Peter Cloyes (Clayes). I just wanted to let you know that you have his birthdate wrong; you have his son or one of his brother’s sons. Peter was one of the first generation born here and was born in Watertown, Mass, in 1640. I have a first-hand history from my grandfather’s grandfather, who was born in the early 1800’s and have found Peter’s and his brother’s birth records in Watertown V.R. Their father was John, who was a mariner from England. Before their births, I have not seen any of the family in the Mass. colonies. I think there may be some in VA. earlier than the 1630’s when John came over, but as for the family of Sarah’s second husband, they are the first generation born here.
In researching my family tree, I have come across this page time and time again by simply putting an ancestor’s name and date of birth into a google search. It is absolutely amazing how many ancestors we share (especially in Essex County and Barnstable County, MA). Your hard work has helped to clarify several uncertainties and confirm many leads for me. I appreciate it, very much!
Glad it could help.
Found these portraits on Craigslist, thought they might be related to you or another Miner?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/art/4897447569.html
Thanks so much for this excellent site! One of the best I’ve seen on the early Mass. settlers. My Lancaster ancestors include the Houghtons, Sawyers and Moores, and thanks to your old map scan I was able to find satellite and street views of their exact properties (I see streets names such as Sawyer St. on Thomas Sawyer’s old farm!).
Thank you for this excellent web site. Over several years I have traced most of my ancestors to the immigrants, and I have found many of them in your tree. I would like to create a web site similar to yours, in order to incorporate more narrative in my tree (I use Ancestry and Family Tree Maker). Like you, I think a genealogy should be a collection of good stories.
Did you start from a template, or did you design your site from scratch? Are there tools that you use or would recommend? I have somewhat dated professional programming and database experience, but I have never done any web development, so any direction you can provide is much appreciated.
Regards, Gregg Purinton
Hi Gregg,
I just started with WordPress. I know a little html from the original days of the internet, so i coded a simple table to show the children.
I like genealogy for the stories and pictures, so having a genealogy file type that can be moved into genealogy programs is not so important for me.
WordPress is free. Try out their text editor.
Kind Rgds,
Mark
Thank you so much for your piece on the George Parkers. I had pieces, but you have so much more. I live 1/2 from Phippsburg if there is anything I can get for you.
Wow, love this web site, I found it trying to figure out a couple of Colman’s (Ben and John) residing in Auburn, NH in 1860, who brought down to Salisbury Mass the body of a Lizzie Foss, who had died the day previous (June 20, 1860). I read this in the 1860 journal of my GG Grandfather, Joseph Oliver Stearns of Salisbury, Mass. (I”m attempting to transcribe all of Joseph’s journals, roughly 1857 to 1917 with some missing years.) Your information gave me the missing link. the 1860 census had given me the parents names for Ben, who turn out to be Thomas W Colman and Emily Chase Colman. Joseph’s grandmother (Elizabeth Chase Eastman) was Emily’s sister! both daughters of Jeremiah Chase and Hannah Pillsbuy. I’m surmising, given the ages, that John and Ben were brothers.
Tx!
Ruthie,
Glad it was helpful.
Good luck with your transcriptions. The diary of my original paternal immigrant Thomas Miner still survives. It \is a unique memorial of daily life in 17th Century New England. Almost all other writing from the period concerns religious and legal matters. Although the entries are terse and never give details, it gives a a glimpse into his daily events and community activities. https://minerdescent.com/2010/07/05/thomas-miner-diary/
Good luck with your transcription,
Mark
Fantastic project! I am a Benjamin Crispe descendant. My Crisp family came from Western North Carolina and the name Zachariah carried through to my birth father’s middle name. Amazing job! Very informative.
I found some very helpful information. Just want to report a typo for the Robert Edwards entry. His wife’s surname was Fairfield, not Fairchild. The Fairchild name is in a copy of a document below his sketch.
Thank you Steve. I have made the update.”
cheers!
Mark
Hello Cousins! I am down the line of Joseph Colman/Jeremiah Colman/Omar Monroe Colman/Omar Monroe Colman. Anyone with any info down that line, please forward the information. Thank you.
Chriks
Hi Mark! I’m am thoroughly enjoying and appreciating all the work you have done. If I’m doing my math right (and I’m not too sure about this), it appears there were lots of brothers marrying sisters in the Miner and and Stubbins/Stebbins families. Either that or they were horrifically incestuous! I’m trying to sort them out and I’m getting a headache. Your work here is helping me clarify some of it. I’m related down the Stubbins/Beckwith line down to the Leighs/Lees. If you can help clear the Stubbins and Miners up any further, I’d greatly appreciate it!
Yes, quite a few kissing cousins in those days. I also found an example of step brother and sister marrying in my tree; like Jan and Greg Brady
Also, I have another question about Thomas Minor and which ship he sailed to America on. The statue you have pictured says he arrived from Chew Magnon on the Arabella, yet I find confirmation that he was on the Lyon’s Whelp about the same time. I’m confused – can you help clear that up as well? Thanks again.
Hi Leeayn,
The Arabella was the flag ship of John Winthrop’s great migration. Family lore says that Thomas Minor came a year earlier on the Lyon’s Whelp, buy no definitive records exist to say for sure.
There are only six passengers listed on the Lyon’s Whelp records we have today
http://www.packrat-pro.com/ships/lyonwhelp.htm
Also see
Cheers, Mark
Hi Mark,
What a great site! I’ve always been interested in the Miner family “story,” which was passed down mostly by word-of-mouth. My Uncle Bill (Miner) years ago went to the Genealogical library in Salt Lake City (some time during the 70’s) and charted out the family tree back to the mid 1300s, but I’m much more fortunate to have the on-line resources. I’ve been engaging my own children lately, to the point of having created a miner family virtual museum, in which I have been placing some of the mountains of photos that I’ve amassed over the years.
Thanks so much for all your efforts.
David Miner
Miner Line: David Miner > Harold Miner > William Harold Miner > William Henry Pollard Miner > James Hiram Miner > Jesse Miner > David Miner > Samuel Miner > Elnathan Miner > Manassah Miner > Thomas Miner
Hi Mark — What a huge amount of work you’ve put into this, and how well it’s paid off. We have quite a few ancestors in common, so that your url often pops up when I’m trying to track things down. Two other sites that are extremely useful and interesting (in case you aren’t familiar) are Michelle Boyd’s pages at boydhouse.com and http://minisinkvalleygenealogy.blogspot.com. I’ve just recently started extracting stories from my database (where nobody can find them) to a weblog/wiki type format. I have a long way to go to catch up, but your site is a great role model. It’s at stellacilento.org if you care to have a look. Thanks for all the material you’ve made available.
It’s a wonderful site. My fear about all this information being on private websites is that the sites will disappear with the death of the administrator unless their descendants maintain the url. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? I’m afraid we’re going to lose a lot of history and research.
Hi Cynthia,
Interesting thought, especially since I am working now on setting up our Living Trust. MinerDescent is also an annuity that pays a dollar a day from advertising. Maybe the trust can get a paypal account for the URL and wordpress, lol.
Cheers!
Mark
I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but I do worry about this. I think there should be a business that will guarantee to keep websites alive in perpetuity for a fee. A friend of mine has a RI state treasure on her site. If you have any RI ancestors, you’ll probably find them here. http://www.thesorensens.net/family_tree.html
So grateful to have stumbled upon your site! Our family descends from Edmund Freeman and I was glad to see that your dates correspond with those we have from a book of descendents called Freemans of Nova Scotia. Your information even helped fill in a few gaps. While our Freeman book gives us dates, your website gives us stories! Such a treasure to come across. Thank you! Your stories seem to end with Samuel Freeman who moved from Harwich to Nova Scotia which is where most of my family remained until moving back to Massachusetts in the early 1900’s. Now that I know more (thanks to your site) regarding our roots in Massachusetts and Cape Cod, we will definitely need to plan a visit soon! Thanks!
Nicole
Hi Nicole,
I am glad my site was helpful. My New England Planter ancestors moved to New Brunswick instead of Nova Scotia. Then on to Wisconsin by wagon train and California by train where we are still.
Cheers!
Mark
Hello, Mr.Mark! My name is Yegor Miner, im from Russia, but now, temporary, leaving and working in UAE. Im read you story and I was wondering, maybe we’re related? 🙂 I saw you father’s photo and noticied similarities with my father and uncle!!! I have son, his name Mark too ) And my father’s name is Alexander. Please, contact me! Best Regarding, Mr. Mark!
Mark–
You and I are, I believe, 6th cousins, if I am counting the generations correctly. I am a direct descendant of Samuel S. Patterson (and his wife Mary Carson) through their daughter Sarah who married John McGaw. The information you have accumulated is most impressive and should, once I try to correlate with what I have on my ancestors who came through Abbeville, SC on their way mostly to the midwest (in my case ultimately settling in rural western Illinois, help me fill in some blanks and add to my understanding of some of the early history.
I have another reason for reaching out to you, however. My grandmother owned for many decades a colonial-era house in North Stonington, CT. I spent many a summer vacation there growing up in the 50s through early 70s and was able to visit a few times thereafter. Her “next door” neighbors (maybe a half mile down the road) were dairy farmers . We often went over and visited the farm while up there. The family name was Miner. The Miner of my grandmother’s generation was named Palmer, as was his son (of my father’s generation) although he was generally known, my recollection is, by his middle name Niles. Seeing that some of your Miner relatives were in this general area of Connecticut a long time ago, I was curious as to whether you are also related to my grandmother’s next door neighbors. (Looking at a town assessment map a few years ago to figure out exactly where my grandmother’s property extended, I think these Miners are still large real estate holders in the area).
Thanks, Ted Rosenthal
Hi Ted,
Thank you for your interesting note. My great grandfather Harvey Latta Miner married Cora Lorena McCaw in 1895 so your story brings together two different lines of mine. The Pattersons, McCaws and McGaws were together for several generations in their journey from Northern Ireland to South Carolina to Ohio.
My Paternal American Ancestor, Thomas MINER (1608 – 1690) was a founder of Charlestown and Hingham Mass and New London and Stonington, Connecticut, and the author of one of the few diaries to survive 17th Century New England. Grace Palmer was his wife and Walter PALMER (1585 – 1661) was his father-in-law so it is very likely that the Miners your grandmother knew are my distant relations.
In Stonington, Thomas built a house on land granted to him, which he later relinquished to Walter Palmer, there having been some confusion during which time the land was also granted to someone else who sold it to Mr. Palmer. In about 1653, Miner bought land west of Stonington, across Quiambaug Cove near present-day Mystic, and built a house for his family. I found on Google Earth exactly where it was and would love to visit one day. The Miners your grandmother knew stayed in the same place for over 350 years. Pretty amazing.
Thanks again cousin,
Mark
Hi, Mark,
Thank you so much for this. My husband and I just returned from visiting our daughter (working briefly as a visiting undergrad in a Harvard lab) in the Boston/Cambridge area. They are descendants of John Parmenter; in fact, my mother-in-law remembers her grandmother Ella Mozella (!) Parmenter. By that time, her end of the line had settled in West Texas. So it was with great excitement that we discovered Parmenters–and a tributary plaque in John’s honor–in a cemetery near the location given here for the Old Parmenter Tavern, Wayland, MA. We southern country mice felt connected to the area! The experience was a highlight of our trip (daughter even posted an account on Facebook, if that tells you anything about its significance, ha).
Yours,
Dena Dickinson
Hi Dena,
Thank you very much for your note. My family tree is just the opposite, just a few ancestors that lived in the South. Stephen Minor was a cousin https://minerdescent.com/2013/01/24/stephen-minor-last-governor-of-natchez/ And the McCaws and the Mortons who followed their minister from Northern Ireland to South Carolina, fought in the Revolution there and in the next generation followed another minister to the Ohio frontier. https://minerdescent.com/2010/07/20/james-mccaw/
It’s fun to be connected and yes, I understand the significance of your daughter posting on Facebook.
All the best!
Mark
Hello Mark,
Amazing work, beautifully presented. I found you looking for a Larison family bible and came across your posts about Keziah Parke and James Larison, my eighth great grandparents. I read all the comments hoping to find a cousin searching back further on the Larison side past John the Dane, to no avail. Bottom line, we are all cousins. Thank you for all your research, cousin!
Ramona Hillier-O’Hara
Hi Mark
Your site is AMAZING!! I happened on it searching for William Woodcock/Alice Washburn, my ancestors of many “great’s”. What wonderful stories you weave around the incidents of their lives. Unfortunately, I don’t believe our genealogies overlap on any other lines. My goal is much like yours: to trace all the immigrant ancestors and document their lives as much as possible (I also hope to visit places of their lives in both the US and the UK. The Woodcock-Garrison house is now on my list!). Your work has set quite a standard to aspire to!
Many thanks!
Cathryn
Hey! My name is Tre McCarthy, and I am the current owner of the Chaplin Clarke House in Rowley, MA. I got a TON of info on my home, and the people that lived there over the years, from this site, and figured I would let you know that the houes is currently on the market, in case that was of interest to you! https://www.windhillrealty.com/listing/72137401/121-haverhill-street-rowley-ma/
Hi Tre,
Interesting. I put your comment on https://minerdescent.com/2010/06/29/joseph-chaplin/ and https://minerdescent.com/2011/08/15/historic-houses/
Rgds, Mark
Since you like stories, here’s my story that connected me to your stories. I was starting to collect more primary docs on my closest relatives. I did a search for my grandmother and found her name and my mother’s name in this new series by Justin Glenn; The Washingtons: A Family History: Volume 1: Seven Generations of the Presidential Branch, which connects us to the first president of the U.S.
Fun. That cleared up my John B Wright brick wall. But barely touched my Anna Patterson brick wall (my 4th great grand parents). And then I found your incredible site and down fell another brick wall. Thank you so much!
Also have to note, my mother and her sister are alive and well, so I thought it not so cool that Mr. Glenn has their names and birth dates in a published book.
Contact me for information relating to the early years of the Arthur Howland family in Marshfield, MA, including the family’s home (built c. 1654) and the family burial ground (recently restored by the Town of Marshfield).
Guess we’re distant cousins. Thomas Avery & Hannah Minor were my 6x great grandparents. I believe Capt James Avery Sr. & Thomas Minor (7x’s) fought together in the Denison/Avery raids of King Phillip’s War, in which they captured the Narragansett sachem Canonchet.
Several other names & histories you have written about are interrelated as well. Elder William Brewster is my 9x g-grandfather via Thomas’ & Hannah’s son’s wife (Abraham Avery & Jane Hill). Rev James Fitch is my 8x g-grandfather via 3x g-grandfather William Avery’s wife Phoebe Throop. [Gov William Bradford of Plymouth Colony is my 9x g-grandfather via Phoebe, & Capt Nathan Hale was Phoebe’s uncle by marriage.]
You also list a relation to Pres U.S. Grant. His namesake ancestor Matthew Grant is my 8x g-grandfather via 2x g-grandfather George Avery’s wife Seraphina Phelps.
Hi, I just wanted to say thank you for taking all the time to publish this information! We’re very very distantly related – your family line comes from Sarah Bagley’s [b. 1683] first husband Henry Lancaster, and mine is from her second husband Elisah Weed.
Just wanted to give you a particular kudos for including the note about Orlando Bagley Sr.’s parents *not* being John Bagley and Mary Warren, as this helped to correct my own tree.
Cheers!
Mark, I wish to give proper attribution to your site and research. Please add a simple Bio and all that copyright stuff! Thanks for the research!!
Dear Mark,
Hi cousin :)!
I have come across your website several times over the last few years, and what I must say what a very impressive body of work you have here. I can’t imagine the time you have involved.
We are both descendants of Jasiel Perry b.1682 Reheboth, MA, and of course share the lineage on up.
Question for you though on Edmund Perry; my father did extensive research 22 years ago and came up with a birthdate of 1599 in Devonshire, Eng, married Sarah Crowell in 1613, and died in 1614.This is also consistent with some research i have done also. This never made sense to us though because he would have married at 14, and died at age 15.Plus his children were all born after that date. However, these are the dates that are many geneologies that I have seen over the years.
I agree with yours stating that he was born in 1588 and died in 1659 in Sandwich, MA. I also agree that Sarah’s last name is also Betts, because his eldest son married a Crowell.
I was just wondering what your sources were, and if you had any new or additional information uncovered.
I come back every few years to do online research and it is really interesting to see that new information is added all the time.
Anyway, great website!
Scott Perry
Hi cousin Scott,
I am glad my website has been helpful. My subscription to Ancestry.com has expired, I probably sourced my Perry story from there. My brother-in-law is Scott Perry too, in the long run we are all cousins.
All the best, Mark
Re: STODDARD, MINER, AVERY, BECKWITH in New London Co., Ct., & Providence, RI
Hello,
So happy to have found this site, with its great mix of well-sourced facts and interesting stories. I’m hoping other readers may know of a connection to my ancestor Avery M. (MINER or MAYNARD) STODDARD. He was b. in Ct. 1790-1800, moved to Va. and married there by 1822. Know his birth state from son’s death cert., but have no idea which town, who his parents were, what brought him to Va. (I’ve exhausted Ancestry, familysearch, Google, and Va. courthouse docs.)
His Va.-born son Albert, after serving on Conf. side in Civil War, seemingly inexplicably moved north to Providence, RI, to work in 1880s. (Died there in 1891, buried in North Burial Ground.) His daughter and 2 sons had already been there for years, working for the Truman BECKWITH family (he was from New London Co., Ct., with its many MINERS and STODDARDS). There has to be some connection—Providence is a long way (geographically and ideologically) from rural central Va.
Another clue is that Albert boarded at same Providence hotel as William Austin STODDARD (b. 1815 in Norwich, sisters Frances Ann [m. Charles SMITH & Ansel WEST] and Sarah [m. Archibald MERRITT]). Albert and Wm. were of similar age and were both carpenters.
Any insights welcome! Thank you!
Mark,
My mom asked about being related to the Miners in the Salem Witch trials. My older brother told her about her ancestors being in Salem. All she has ever known is that her dad was born in Coffeville, Kansas and her Granddad’s name was Albert Henry and Grand mother Rose Priscilla Mae Backus . My granddad’s name was Gerald. My family is in Oregon. I am in NY we moved here with the Military. My mom does not want anything. She just likes history.
Hi Mary June, I have plenty of Salem Witch Trial ancestors, but they are not so much on the Miner side. Salem is the north side of Massachusetts and the Miners moved down to Connecticut early one. Later the Miners moved west. First Kinsman Ohio next to Pennsylvania, later to Nebraska and in the 1890’s to California’s Central Valley and by 1910 to San Diego where I was born.
Thanks for your nice note.
I am wondering what your source is for the surname and parents of Ephraim Coleman.
Your site is really amazing! Excellent job and thank you for sharing all of your hard work!
Just came across this. I am also a direct Jan Jurian Becker Descendant…maybe 8 generations back. And I love these stories! I’m going to NYC on Friday and will find the intersection of the tavern!
I’m a direct Jan Jurian Becker descendant as well, maybe 8 generations back. When I go to NYC on Friday I will find the place the tavern stood!
Sue Becker
Hello, My Mother just informed me about our relation to Thomas Minor. I’m completely honored and humbled to know my origins in life and read about people (my relatives) who have contributed so much to Living the American Dream. My name is Thomas Bahrs the Son of Louise Minor and a very proud relative of the Minor’s. Great Job on the web site
Hi Mark – wow, I am amazed at all the work you’ve put into your research, along with everyone else! I am sorry to bother you with a trivial question, but i am off to wander around England next month and wanted to ask you a random question related to the Paynes. I am a Drury descendant (of the Maryland Drurys), but we don’t know who our emigrant anscestor is. I suspect we may be descended from a William Drury of Hedgerley and Judith Payne, daughter of a William Payne. I was thrilled to find Judith on your website! (Born 6/22/1589; married in London 1618) Apparently William had run through all of his money by the age of 25; if the dates are correct it looks like Judith was a “spnister” for her time, marrying at age 29. However, she was well connected and it looks like William, though from a distinnguished family, was impoverished. I see that several of Judith’s siblings emmigrated to MA; I had already suspected that the lack of documentation of William and Judith may have come about due to their needing to be sponsored by her family in order to make the passage (not a very proud moment for the descendants of this couple). Do you happen to have any other information on these siblings of Judith Payne, or their descendents in America? Thank you so much for all of your work – it’s wonderful!
Hello Mark! I’m an officer of the Thomas Minor Society and want to 1) borrow some of your words about Thomas and his family for a presentation at our reunion next week and 2) invite you to join the Thomas Minor Society if you are not already a member. I am SO impressed with your work! Please let me know if I can use your version of Thomas’s background and life timeline (properly credited to you of course). Thank you!
There is some controversy about the parents of Edward Wanton of Scitiate, Mass. being Valentine Wauton and Margaret Cromwell. You show an interesting coat-of-arms for Edward which is clearly derived from the Wauton coat-of-arms of William de Wauton, see Derring Roll A244. Could you tell me where you found the coat-of-arms of Edward Wanton?
Thank you. Edard is my 7 x great grandfather.
Best,
Peter Leyel
You wrote “Mary Towne ESTEY (wife ofIssac ESTEY) who was burned at the stake at the Salem witch trials.” Were any accused witches in the British American colonies ever burned at the stake? I don’t think so.
I am very impressed by all the research you have done. I notice your last post was sometime in 2018. I hope you haven’t given up this project. I also hope that nothing has happened to you and you are living your life happily.
I have a question for you if you are still able to answer. Where did you get your early information about Stephen Bachiler being a Walloon?
Hello Miner kinfolk! I’m the daughter of Helen Miner (Branwell miner and Katie Ruth Heisler) and Junius Grant Van Curen (Grant Van Curen and Rosa Longenecker) in Etna Green, Indiana. I’ve read Doug Van Keuren’s book, too, and both of my sons now have my copies. In an odd twist of fate, I, descending from the Dutch East India Company by blood, was married for 37 years to a descendent of Jacob Roggeveen of the Dutch West India Company. Sadly he inherited a serious brain disorder and dumped me, but in another strange twist, an intercessor who’d never met me told me two years ago that I come from a long line of pastors (through the Heislers) and God chose me for this battle, which HE would win by peace reigning in all my life. Okayk, God, YOUR Glory, not mine! Stranger stil, by selling a king-size bed on Facebook to a friend from the church I attended in Mesa, Arizona, I’m now putting together devotional gift books for Christian Brands Group (Phoenix, AZ). And adding to the “coincidences,” I now live a couple of miles north of Thomas Van Keuren in Oro Valley, AZ. I know I’m not the one “steering this canoe,” so all glory to God!
Hi, thank you for all the information included here. I’d like to confirm that Robert Smith (1795-1879) and Mary Ann Patterson (1795-1865) were the parents of Elizabeth “Eliza” Jane (Smith) Paul (1823-1904) married to William David Paul (.1821-1910). And that the father of Robert Smith was James Robert Smith (1767-1852) married to Anna (Smith) Smith ( (1770-1844). And that his father (James Robert Smith) was, in fact, Col. James Smith (1737-1813) of Revolutionary War fame. Thank you. I can’t seem to find the info that i need.
Great stuff; I’m a 13 generation descendant, From Halifax Nova Scotia.
Good evening, I am posting this message as I was researching John Houghton, 17th Century immigrant to The Massachusetts Bay Colony and found him discussed here in your genealogical entries. The reason I was researching him this evening came having been unexpectedly inspired to find out who the Houghton family were after having seen a stunning historic house for sale in the bucolic town of Harvard, Massachusetts (the town is full of history and is within driving distance of Boston). I am reaching out to you now as an pristine Houghton house in Harvard, Massachusetts is now for sale. I happened upon the house entirely by chance when out driving this afternoon. It immediately caught my attention and I pulled over to appreciate it from the road. There was a plaque near the road relating that it was The Houghton Sprague Farm circa 1663. It is not often that I have come across a house like this (part of it is First Period meaning part of it was built at a point sometime between 1625 and 1720/1725. The earliest part of this house dating to the mid-1600s this caught my attention) especially in Harvard or in towns close by as many houses were destroyed and lives lost during King Philip’s War (which raged from part of 1675 to part of 1676 in southern New England). I later took a virtual tour of the house whose address is 204 W. Bare Hill Road, Harvard and was captivated by how the house has been so carefully and lovingly restored. From what I read online its earliest section dates back to the mid-1600s when a portion of the current house was a garrison house in what was then Lancaster, MA and is now Harvard, MA. It would be so wonderful and altogether right if the new owners of the house appreciate its period details and all of the careful restoration work that has gone into ensuring that it is doing so well nearly four hundred years after its earliest sections were built. Maybe you know of fellow Houghton descendants who might be interested in purchasing it and enjoying it for decades to come who you could share the house information with?
Here is a link to a history of the house and its original Houghton owners as made available by The Harvard Historical Society, Harvard, MA.
Thank you for that very interesting information.
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If this is related to me, per se? In my family tree, A John Houghton of Mass. State is a distant cousin. Oh, wait a minute, first of all, Which John Houghton are we talking about? There is quite a few, no matter they are mostly all from the same family tree. Once I know which one you are renewing to? i will send you my link to them on geni.com. Many of them are related as cousins. I have to which grandfather or grandmother we both shared while going up the tree. Somewhere we have a common grandparent. Alvin. J. (aka– Ron) Meredith-Premus
So far, I don’t believe I’m related to any of that line. But I thank you for the info on the house. I’m sure someone in that line will enjoy the history.
As you said on web page- https://minerdescent.com/about/I am also related to Charlemagne. His nickname is Magnus. My grandmother’s last maiden name was Mangus. Similar? Maybe. Just two letters jumble up there. Anyways he is my 32 Great grandfather. That might make us distant cousins. Charlemagne is your 34th great grandfather.By PHGCOM – Own work by uploader, photographed at Cabinet des Médailles, Paris., Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=5729324 Carolus ‘Magnus’, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum MP Latin: Karolus ‘Magnus’, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum, French: Carolus, Magnus, Portuguese: Carlos Magno, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum, Estonian: Karl Suur, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum, Finnish: Kaarle Suuri, Rex Francorum & Imperator Romanorum
| Gender: | Male | | Birth: | April 02, 742 Unknown, Likely in present Belgium (Herstal) or Germany | | Death: | January 28, 814 (71) Aachen, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany | | Place of Burial: | Royal Church of St. Mary (present Aachen Cathedral or Kaiserdom), Aachen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany | | Immediate Family: | Son of Pépin III, King of the Franks and Bertha Broadfoot of Laon, Queen of the Franks Husband of Desiderata of the Lombards; Hildegard of Vinzgouw; Fastrada and Luitgard Partner of Himiltrude; Gerswinde of Saxony; Madelgarde of Lommois; Amaltrud of Vienne; Regina and 1 other Father of Amaudra; Pippin the Hunchback; Charles ‘the Younger’, King of the Franks; “Pépin” Carloman, King of Italy; Adalhaid and 15 others Brother of Carloman I, King of the Franks; Gisele, Abbess of Chelles; Pepin; Chrothais; Adelais and 2 others
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Alvin. J. (aka– Ron) Meredith-Premus
What an interesting series of posts! I’m wondering if you have found any documentation of negotiations and redemptions of the kidnapped children taken by natives. I’m researching the Eames Massacre and am trying to determine how long Margaret Eames was kept before the govt agent Joseph Adams was able to get her released.
Mark,
What an extraordinary effort you’ve put into this over the years. You and I are related many times over. But you’ve brought these ancestors to life and have tied in details I have never heard of before. I’ve been assembling my ancestry for the last 15 years or so and it is remarkable how many ancestors we have in common. So many familiar names in here to me. Miner, Palmer, Hewitt, Bassett, Payne, Reade, Adams, Hopkins, Snow, Cromwell, Brewster, Tilley, Howland, Freeman, Newcomb, Huckins, Bangs, Coffin, Starbuck, Mayhew, Cross and many others. I did find what I believe to be an error in the Cross lineage from your site. You have Peter Cross, husband to Mary Wade as the son of Robert Cross. Peter Cross was the son of Peter Cross Sr. and the Grandson of William Cross and Alice Simpson of Windham CT. Peter and Mary Cross were my 8th GGrandparents. See this link from the Sprague project. I have verified this with other sources as well. https://sprague.one-name.net/getperson.php?personID=I83082&tree=Sprague
Again, I applaud this herculean effort and say hello to you cousin.
Best
Joe Stone
Westminster, Colorado
iam zoe anne carter born in stoke on Trent in 26th march 1989 my grand father was Reginald carter and name Alma Dorothy Carter ..
mother Shirley jane carter ..
i think my family goes from irlenad and before that norma and anglo nomadies and saxons.. there is alot history with carters and if like see more ill have link https://www.geni.com/people/Roger-le-Carter/6000000008290347051
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info coppied from my messages sorry abotu auther bull but its all good .. alot info here enjoy
Thank you for the info