Thomas HAWES Sr (1500 – 1574) was Alex’s 13th Great Grandfather in the Shaw line.
Thomas Hawes was born about 1500 Solihull, Warwickshire. His parents were Thomas HAWES (b. ~1450) and Ann GREANWOLD or Johanna RENSFORD. He married Elizabeth BROME in 1527 in Lichfield, Staffordshire, England. Thomas died 1574 in Solihull.
Elizabeth Brome was born 1501 in Baddesley Clinton, Warwickshire. Her parents were Nicholas BROME ( ~ 1450 at Baddesley Clinton, Warwick – 1516). and Katherine LAMPECK ( – aft. 1508) Nicholas’ parents were He was the son of Lord John Brome and Beatrix Shirley. Elizabeth died 1566 in Baddesley Clinton.
Children of Thomas and Elizabeth
Solehull, Warwickshire, Englan
1562 in Leigh, Worcester, England
|29 Oct 1611 Solihull.|
Solihull, Warwickshire, England
1545 in Hockliffe, Bedfordshire
|20 May 1574 Hockliffe, Bedfordshire, England.|
|3.||Elizabeth Hawes||Thomas Jackson|
|4.||Margaret Hawes||Walter Chamber|
|4.||(Daughter) Hawes||[__?__] Hatley|
Baddesley Clinton Manor – Map
Baddesley Clinton Manor (Wiki) was Elizabeth Brome’s childhood home. It is a moated manor house, located just north of the historic town of Warwick; the house was probably established in the 13th century when large areas of the Forest of Arden were cleared and eventually converted to farmland. The site is a Scheduled Ancient Monument and the Hall is a Grade I listed building.
In 1438, Elizabeth’s grandfather John Brome, the Under-Treasurer of England, bought the manor. It then passed to Elizabeth’s father Nicholas, who is thought to have built the east range, which is the main entrance. Nicholas is also responsible for the extensive rebuilding of the nearby parish church dedicated to St. Michael, done as penance for killing the parish priest, a murder reputed to have taken place in the great house itself.
The house from this period was equipped with gun-ports, and possibly a drawbridge. When Nicholas Brome died in 1517, the house passed to Elizabeth’s sister, who married Sir Edward Ferrers (High Sheriff of Warwickshire) in 1500. The house remained in the ownership of the Ferrers family until 1940 when it was purchased by Thomas Walker, a relative of the family who changed his name to Ferrers. His son, who inherited it in 1970, sold the estate in 1980 to the National Trust, who now manage it.
Elizabeth’s great nephew Henry Ferrers (Wiki) “The Antiquary” (1549–1633) made many additions to Baddesley Clinton, including starting the tradition of stained glass representing the family’s coat of arms. Such glass now appears in many of the public rooms in the house. It is thought that he was responsible for building the great hall. In the 18th century the great hall was rebuilt in brick, and the east range was extended, though with great care to continue the style of the original building.
The house was inhabited in the 1860s by the novelists Lady Chatterton (1806-1876) and her second husband Edward Heneage Dering(b. 1827), both of whom converted to Catholicism. The house’s Catholic chapel was rebuilt, along with a general refurbishment of the house. Major interior changes took place up until the 1940s, with the first floor outside the chapel being completely altered.
The Great Irish Famine in 1845–1851 deprived Laday Chatterton’s first husband of his rents. They retired to a small house at Bloxworth, Dorset, until 1852, when they moved to Rolls Park, Essex. and Sir William died there on 5 Aug 1855. On 1 Jun 1859 the widow married a fellow novelist Edward Heneage Dering, youngest son of John Dering, rector of Pluckley, Kent, and prebendary of St Paul’s Cathedral, who had retired from the army in 1851. They took up residence in Baddesley Clinton Hall, where Dering took to wearing 17th-century costume. Twenty years her junior, he was the author of the novels Lethelier and A Great Sensation (1862). Within six years of their marriage Dering entered the Roman Catholic Church. She herself wavered, but after a correspondence with William Bernard Ullathorne, bishop of Birmingham, she also converted in August 1875.
The house as it now exists has extensive formal gardens and ponds, with many of the farm buildings dating back to the 18th century. St. Michael’s church, which shares much history with the house is just a few hundred yards up a lane. Inside the house are a beautiful great hall, parlor and library, among other rooms, and there is a great deal of 16th century carving and furniture, as well as the 19th century accessories the later inhabitants used.
The Ferrers remained Catholic Recusants after the Reformation, along with many other members of the Warwickshire gentry. They sheltered Catholic priests, who were under the threat of a death sentence if discovered, and made special provision to hide and protect them. Several priest holes were built, secret passages to hide people in the event of a search. One hole is off the Moat Room, and is simply a small room with a door hidden in the wood paneling. A second leads into the ceiling, and though not visible to visitors, is reputed to hold six people. A third is hidden in an old toilet. Fugitives could slide down a rope from the first floor through the old garderobe shaft into the house’s former sewers, which run the length of the building, and could thus probably hold at least a dozen people.
These priest holes are said to have been built by Saint Nicholas Owen, a lay-brother of the Jesuits who made many masterful hides, notably at nearby Harvington Hall. He was eventually caught and tortured to death by the Protestant English government. The hides came into use at least once, in 1591 when a conference of Jesuit priests was raided by local authorities. They did their job, as no-one was caught.
Will of Elizabeth’s brother Rauffe Brome
Will of Thomas Hawes
Thomas Hawes Inventory
1. Willliam HAWES (See his page)
2. Constance Hawes
Constance’s husband Thomas Shepherd was born 1515 in Stewkley, Buckinghamshire, England. Thomas died 1563 in Hockliffe, Bedfordshire, England
Children of Constance and William
i. William Shepherd b. 1546 in Hockliffe, Bedfordshire, England’; d. 4 May 1623 Great Rollright, Oxfordshire, England; m. Ann Moore (b. Whitechurch) William and Anne had seven children
ii. Thomas Shepherd b. 1557 in Normand-On-Soar, Nottinghamshire, England; d. 17 Dec 1607 Maulden, Bedfordshire, England
3. Elizabeth Hawes
Elizabeth’s husband Thomas Jackson
Children of Elizabeth and Thomas
i. Thomas Jackson
4. Margaret Hawes
Margaret’s husband Walter Chamber
5. Daughter Hawes
She and [__?__] Hatley had issue
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I do not remember if/how the Griste/Grist family from England (migrated to Mass. early 1600’s) are related to the Hawes name. Can you refresh my memory? Thank you. Ellis Grist ==== ===== firstname.lastname@example.org
This is so very interesting, Thomas Hawes would have been my husbands 11th great grandfather. Thank you so much for everything you have posted here. I have been tracking the Hawes family and you have added so much to my research….Again THANK YOU
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Hi. Thank you so much for all this information. I am a descendant of Thomas Hawes. I am just completing a family chart that shows all the royal ancestors of the Shirleys. It is 156 pages so far!
I am a descendant of Edmund Haws/ Hawes who landed in Plymouth in 1635. Seems they changed the spelling of the name at some point. I also am looking for the Royal Descent of the family. Found this. https://cdm17273.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p17273coll22/id/3443
It was noted in the records of Plymouth he had Carolingian Descent. Through the Brome line?
Looking for the links to William I of Scotland that have also been mentioned.
Would be nice to see what you have found.
Hi Andrew. Yes, I’ve found two lines that lead to some 81 kings and queens. They both lead to Charlemagne in about 20 different ways since everyone was so interconnected. I found the line from Edmond Hawes to William I of Scotland in Gary Boyd Roberts’ book “The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States.” There is a copy in the New England Historic and Genealogical Society Library and another in the California Genealogical Society Library. I don’t know where you live. I found the second line in James William Hawes’ book, “Edmond Hawes of Yarmouth, Massachusets, An Emigrant to America in 1635, His Ancestors” published in 1914. I think you can get a free pdf of the latter online. When my book is available to the public, I’ll let you know. But it’s in color, so expensive to print. Mary
Thanks for the reply and your hard work finding and writing your book. I am looking forwards to reading it.
I understand that after so much time nearly everyone in Europe and England are linked to these Kings. And that the results are largely academic.
I live in Alberta Canada and only recently started this interesting journey.
Thank you for this. Elizabeth Brome is my 14th great grandmother. Beautiful to see where she lived as a child