Mark BATCHEDLER (1578 – ) may not have been Alex’s 11th Great Grandfather; one of 4,096 in this generation of the Miller line.
Mark Batchelder was born in 1578 in Minster-in-Thanet, Kent, England. He married Mary FANTINGE 30 Oct 1598 in Thanet, Kent, England. Mark died in Margate, Thanet, Kent, England.
Mary Fantinge was born in 1576 in St Jonnesen, Thane, England. Her father was Andrew FANTINGE. Mary died in Margate, Kent, England
It appears there were two first cousins, both named Ruth, born a couple years apart who both immigrated from Massachusetts to New Brunswick; William FISKE and Marah [__?__]‘s daughter Ruth and Joseph FISKE and Susannah WARNER’s daughter, Ruth. [Susannah Warner was Mark Batcheller’s great granddaughter.] Many genealogies mix these two women up, but it’s not possible that the same woman was mother to both Richard ESTEY‘s children and David Kilborne’s children because they were born at the same time. It”s more likely that William Fiske’s daughter was our ancestor, but I’m including posts for both families.
Children of Mark and Mary:
15 Apr 1637 Thanington, Kent, England
|2 Feb 1676
|2.||Mary Batchelder||1607 in Margate, Kent, England|
||c. 1608 in Canterbury, England||Elizabeth DICKENSON in 1628 in England.||March, 1647.
|4.||John Batchelder||1610 in Canterbury, Kent, England||Rebecca [__?__]
8 May 1653 in Salem, Essex, Mass
|10 Sep 1675
Various Spellings of Batcheller-
Bachelder, Bacheldor, Bacheler, Bacheller, Bachelor, Bachelour, Bachildor, Bachiler, Bachilor, Batcheldor, Batcheldour, Batcheler, Batcheller, Batchellor, Batchellour, Batchelor, Batchclour, Batchiler and Batchilor
This notable and long-established surname is of Old French origin, and is a status name for a young knight or novice at arms, deriving from the Old French “bacheler”, from the medieval Latin “baccalarius”. The name was introduced into England by the Normans after the Conquest of 1066, and was adopted into Middle English. By the 14th Century the word “bachelor” had already been extended to mean “(young) unmarried man”, but it is unlikely that many bearers of the surname derive it from the word in that sense. Early examples of the surname include: Stephen le Bachilier (Suffolk, 1203); Walter le Bachelor (Surrey, 1248); and Magg’ (Margaret) Bacheler, noted in the 1273 Hundred Rolls of Huntingdonshire. In Scotland, the name has acquired an added meaning, that of “young tenant farmer” or “holder of a small farm”.
1, 3, 4. Three brothers Henry, Joseph and John immigrated to America in 1637 on the ship “Hercules“.
In a list headed “A true roll or list of names, surnames, and qualities of all such persons who have taken passage from the town and port of Sandwich for the American plantations, since the last certificate of such passengers returned into the office of Dover castle. Henry Bachelor of Dover, brewer, and Martha, his wife, 4 servants. Joseph Bachelor of Canterbury, taylor, and Elizabeth, his wife, 1 child, 3 servants. John Bachelor, of Canterbury, taylor.”
1. Henry Batchelder
Henry’s wife Martha Wilson was born 1605 in Kent, England. Martha died 4 Apr 1686 in Ipswich, Essex, Mass
3. Joseph BATCHELLER (See his page)
4. John Batchelder
John’s first wife Rebecca [__?__] was born in 1610 in Canterbury, Kent, England.
John’s second wife Elizabeth Herrick was born 1610 in Canterbury, Kent, England. Elizabeth died 10 Sep 1675 in Salem, Essex, Mass.
John received grant of 20 acres land in 1639 in Salem, Massachusetts Bay Colony. He became a member on 23 Jun 1639 in Salem, Massachusetts Bay Colony. He took the oath of a freeman on 13 May 1640 in Salem, Massachusetts Bay Colony. He granted 20 acres after 13 Nov 1640 in Salem, Massachusetts Bay Colony. He signed a will on 17 May 1673 in Salem, Essex, MA. Bequeathed to his wife his house and all movable estate, and then onto son John after her death, less 20 acres which he bequeathed to John Cressy (husband of daughter Mary). He also gives his grandchild John Cressy 6 acres. He resided near the present golf grounds near Elliot Street before 1675 in Beverly, Essex, MA. He died on 13 Nov 1675 in Salem, Essex, MA He left, according to his inventory, £230 (included “considerable” tracts of land, orchards, and buildings) about 13 Nov 1675 in Salem, Massachusetts Bay Colony. He Purchased 60 acres of land. He was a taylor. John’s daughter Mary died “in child-bed” in 1659 at the age of 19, the mother of John. John (and his brother Joseph) raised his grandchild rather than his father, Mighill Cressey, who was 31 when Mary died.
New England Historic Genealogical Register
Page: v163:13 Canterbury Marriage Licenses 1:19
Text: Mark & Mary Fantinge (widow)
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If Mark Batchelder died in 1598, how could he have fathered children in 1602, 1607, 1608, and 1610? I’m interested because I’m a descendant of Deacon John Cressy, son of Mary Batchelder, daughter of John Batchelder, and Mighill Cressy. Trying to put together a family tree, but some of the dates don’t make sense. I’d be grateful for any insight.
Thanks for catching this inconsistency, I have removed Mark’s date of death. Though many ancestry.com family trees show this date, I can’t find any source reference. I have added a NEHGR reference to Mark and Mary’s marriage, Minister is about 13 miles from Canterbury.
I usually don’t include pre-immigrant ancestors, but this is one of my earliest “Mark” ancestors and he had three children who immigrated
A lot of digging on my part, and I have only found a very odd date of death for Mark, which is also given as the date of his marriage. There are probably 20 trees on ancestry that have this seemingly ludicrous set of dates given the same tree owners list children of this union.
Mark, I’m confused about John 1610. Some sources like the oft cited Bacheller family tome show two wives. The tree that you link to shows marriages to three and include Rebecca. It explains why multiple names are given to some of his sons, but also raises the question of how he had two wives or even three in some sources all who were born in England and who died in Massachusetts. I think the answer may be in the baptism records of parish churches in Kent where I see a lot of people called by this name. I know you have your own Fiske conundrum but John not Joseph is my ancestor and it’s one of those mind boggling issues I can’t resolve. Any ideas or stones you unturned along the way?
I corrected my tree to remove Mark Bachellers death date which is the same date as his marriage. Not that bizarre in and of itself, in fact on of my Walker great uncles died on his honeymoon. But in the case of our Mark here the dates his sons were born belie the fact that he died 10 years before they were born. Nowadays you can freeze stuff however I don’t believe they had in vitro in 1600,
I think the” how many wives” conundrum can be solved by this: There were two John Batchelders:
1. One of them arrived in 1634, lived in Watertown and then settled in Reading. This J.B. married a Rebecca.
2. The other J.B. arrived in 1637 with his brothers Joseph and Henry. He married Mary MNU after he arrived and secondly Elizabeth Herrick after Mary died. This J.B. is the one referred to above in #4 of the Children listed for Mark Batchelder.
Thanks. I came to same conclusion. On wikitree I have dna confirmed with the descendants in the Herrick line.